Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage

[Lev Lafayette <lev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>
Whereas I've saved this entire discussion to develop into an article ;-)

Lev

> dear simon,
>
> you can perhaps take some comfort in knowing that there are a great many
> of us on the list who delete dumain's posts unread....
>
> jamie
>
> On Sat, 15 May 1999, simon smith wrote:
>
> > In article <3.0.3.32.19990514130109.0069df6c@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ralph Dumain
> > <rdumain@xxxxxxx> writes
> > >>The critique of Jazz, the jitterbug, is just that it facilitates >the
> > >reduction of body to a machine, just as it simulates its >liberation.  This
> > >is jazz as I have heard it.
> > >
> > >This is to prove only what a pathetic, vapid shit you are.  There is, of
> > >course, no content whatever in this utterance; just a quotation of
> > >authority.  Yet what is at issue here is who has authority in these matters
> > >and on what basis.
> >
> > (other abuse snipped)
> >
> > I have not personally insulted you once. Academic discussion as personal
> > aggression, the use of language as a weapon, is as far as I can imagine
> > from the spirit of the Frankfurt School, and its refusal is integral to
> > the work of both Adorno and Benjamin. I felt strongly against jazz well
> > before I read Adorno and went into a critique of his ideas. I really
> > don't see what place pugilism has on this list. It was one of the things
> > I hoped to escape from when I subscribed. I have got myself embroiled in
> > internet 'flame wars' before and have resolved 'never again!'. Ego self-
> > preservation and the rage of self against other always takes over.
> >
> > La de da. You will be pleased or not to know that I will be deleting
> > your obnoxious posts from now on.
> > --
> > simon
> >
>
>


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