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Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage
- Subject: Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage
- From: Jamie Owen Daniel <jdaniel@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:39:19 -0500 (CDT)
dear simon,
you can perhaps take some comfort in knowing that there are a great many
of us on the list who delete dumain's posts unread....
jamie
On Sat, 15 May 1999, simon smith wrote:
> In article <3.0.3.32.19990514130109.0069df6c@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ralph Dumain
> <rdumain@xxxxxxx> writes
> >>The critique of Jazz, the jitterbug, is just that it facilitates >the
> >reduction of body to a machine, just as it simulates its >liberation. This
> >is jazz as I have heard it.
> >
> >This is to prove only what a pathetic, vapid shit you are. There is, of
> >course, no content whatever in this utterance; just a quotation of
> >authority. Yet what is at issue here is who has authority in these matters
> >and on what basis.
>
> (other abuse snipped)
>
> I have not personally insulted you once. Academic discussion as personal
> aggression, the use of language as a weapon, is as far as I can imagine
> from the spirit of the Frankfurt School, and its refusal is integral to
> the work of both Adorno and Benjamin. I felt strongly against jazz well
> before I read Adorno and went into a critique of his ideas. I really
> don't see what place pugilism has on this list. It was one of the things
> I hoped to escape from when I subscribed. I have got myself embroiled in
> internet 'flame wars' before and have resolved 'never again!'. Ego self-
> preservation and the rage of self against other always takes over.
>
> La de da. You will be pleased or not to know that I will be deleting
> your obnoxious posts from now on.
> --
> simon
>
- Thread context:
- ADORNO & JAZZ: REFERENCES (3) -- FRANK ZAPPA,
Ralph Dumain Fri 14 May 1999, 19:50 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Ralph Dumain Fri 14 May 1999, 17:01 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
simon smith Sat 15 May 1999, 20:32 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Rainbow Bookstore Cooperative Sun 16 May 1999, 03:40 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Jamie Owen Daniel Mon 17 May 1999, 03:39 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Lev Lafayette Mon 17 May 1999, 04:07 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Ralph Dumain Mon 17 May 1999, 05:40 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Peters, Mike [HES] Mon 17 May 1999, 13:43 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
rc-am Mon 17 May 1999, 14:16 GMT
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