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Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage
- Subject: Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage
- From: simon smith <clov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:32:49 +0100
In article <3.0.3.32.19990514130109.0069df6c@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ralph Dumain
<rdumain@xxxxxxx> writes
>>The critique of Jazz, the jitterbug, is just that it facilitates >the
>reduction of body to a machine, just as it simulates its >liberation. This
>is jazz as I have heard it.
>
>This is to prove only what a pathetic, vapid shit you are. There is, of
>course, no content whatever in this utterance; just a quotation of
>authority. Yet what is at issue here is who has authority in these matters
>and on what basis.
(other abuse snipped)
I have not personally insulted you once. Academic discussion as personal
aggression, the use of language as a weapon, is as far as I can imagine
from the spirit of the Frankfurt School, and its refusal is integral to
the work of both Adorno and Benjamin. I felt strongly against jazz well
before I read Adorno and went into a critique of his ideas. I really
don't see what place pugilism has on this list. It was one of the things
I hoped to escape from when I subscribed. I have got myself embroiled in
internet 'flame wars' before and have resolved 'never again!'. Ego self-
preservation and the rage of self against other always takes over.
La de da. You will be pleased or not to know that I will be deleting
your obnoxious posts from now on.
--
simon
- Thread context:
- Ralph Dumain,
Doug Henwood Mon 17 May 1999, 14:43 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: Ralph Dumain,
Peters, Mike [HES] Mon 17 May 1999, 15:37 GMT
- ADORNO & JAZZ: REFERENCES (3) -- FRANK ZAPPA,
Ralph Dumain Fri 14 May 1999, 19:50 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Ralph Dumain Fri 14 May 1999, 17:01 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
simon smith Sat 15 May 1999, 20:32 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Rainbow Bookstore Cooperative Sun 16 May 1999, 03:40 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Jamie Owen Daniel Mon 17 May 1999, 03:39 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Lev Lafayette Mon 17 May 1999, 04:07 GMT
- Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage,
Ralph Dumain Mon 17 May 1999, 05:40 GMT
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