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Re: Keynes and socialism
Crotty presents pretty convincing evidence that Keynes argued several times
for what came to be known as industrial policy and indicative planning
before and during WEII (in a JEI article published in 1992 - I have the
citation in my office). Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Barkley Rosser
To: Forstater, Mathew
Cc: pkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 10/22/2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Keynes and socialism
Importance: Low
It is widely argued that in _The End of Laissez Faire_
Keynes was the first to suggest what we now label
"indicative planning," although he did not pursue this
topic very much later, and it was not implemented
particularly in the UK, especially compared with France,
Japan, and some other countries.
Barkley Rosser
----- Original Message -----
From: "Forstater, Mathew" <ForstaterM@xxxxxxxx>
To: "Ted Winslow" <egwinslow@xxxxxxxxxx>; <pkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Rakesh Bhandari" <rakeshb@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:23 PM
Subject: Keynes and socialism
> Keynes believed that capitalism required "much more central planning
> than we have at present" (1982, 494). This should not be surprising
for
> anyone who has read the final chapter of The General Theory, where he
> argued that "a somewhat comprehensive socialisation of investment will
> prove the only means of securing an approximation to full employment"
> (p. 378). Keynes fought consistently throughout his life for policies
> that would address the ills of the free market--what he called
> "individualistic capitalism"--through some form of State intervention,
> often referring to 'semi-socialism', 'liberal socialism',
> 'nationalisation', etc.
>
> Keynes believed that State intervention is not only legitimate, but
> necessary, in some areas, although he thought that in other areas it
was
> less effective. This points to one of the tasks Keynes recognized
faced
> the modern world:
>
> "The true socialism of the future will emerge, I think, from an
endless
> variety of experiments directed toward discovering the respective
> appropriate spheres of the individual and the social, and the terms of
> fruitful alliance between these sister instincts." (1981, p. 222)
>
> From such experimentation, he hoped, it would become possible to
> identify those parts of socio-economic life "which are *technically
> social* from those which are *technically individual*" (1926, pp.
66-67,
> original emphasis):
>
> "Leave individuals to go on doing what they are doing more or less
> satisfactorily, even though individual action is not perfect--where it
> exists and is functioning, leave it alone--but do from the centre
those
> things which, if not done from the centre, will not be done at all."
> (1981, p. 647)
>
> Keynes may be sometimes read as arguing that only the volume of
> investment should be socialized, but it seems pretty clear that if
> markets cannot ensure the right volume of investment, there is no way
> they can guarantee that the composition of investment will be in
accord
> with social goals (the British Labour party used to make this
argument,
> in the 'good old days').
>
> There are important lessons here, not only for industrialized
capitalist
> economies, but for the 'transition' economies as well: Keynes's work
> provides a good counter to 'anarcho-capitalism.'
>
> Mat
>
> 1981, CW Vol. XIX
> 1982, CW, Vol. XXI
> 1926, Laissez-faire and Communism
>
>
- Thread context:
- Retirement and Employment, (continued)
- Re: Keynes and socialism,
Forstater, Mathew Thu 23 Oct 2003, 17:26 GMT
- Re: Keynes and socialism,
rosserjb Thu 23 Oct 2003, 17:57 GMT
- Re: Keynes and socialism,
Niggle, Christopher Thu 23 Oct 2003, 21:04 GMT
- Re: Keynes and socialism,
Forstater, Mathew Thu 23 Oct 2003, 21:52 GMT
- A Future Economics,
Gunnar Tómasson Wed 22 Oct 2003, 21:14 GMT
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