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Paul:
Further to my
message of yesterday's date -
I will check out Ch. 2 of your book at the IMF library tomorrow. - I have now read the chapter. Briefly, its
contents are reflected in the chapter heading, 'Keynes's principle of effective
demand' -
there is
NOTHING there on "the Keynes theory of value".
I also used the
occasion to leaf through Vol. I of 'A Treatise on Money' and, in doing so,
took special note of the following two passages:
1. "(1) Income. - We propose to mean identically the
same thing by the three expressions: (1) the community's money-income;
(2) the earnings of the factors of production; and (3) the cost of
production; and we reserve the term profits for the difference
between the cost of production of the current output and its actual
sale-proceeds, so that profits are not part of the community's income as thus
defined." (MacMillan and Co., London, 1950, p. 123)
In turn,
Keynes identified NET Investment as the source of Profits.
2. "Human effort and human consumption are the ultimate matters
from which alone economic transactions are capable of deriving any significance;
and all other forms of expenditure only acquire importance from their having
some relationship, sooner or later, to the effort of producers or to the
expenditure of consumers." (p. 134)
Whence it follows that Investment is a pen-ultimate aspect
of a production process whose ultimate object is Consumption - that
is to say, Investment in any given period translates into Consumption in some
future period.
And, by including Profits/NET Investment as part of the community's
disposable purchasing power in any given period, Keynes ended up with an
analytical mess of the first order - the fabled Widow's Cruse:
"There is one peculiarity of profits (or losses) which we may note in
passing, because it is one of the reasons why it is necessary to segregate them
from income proper, as a category apart. If entrepreneurs choose to spend
a portion of their profits on consumption (and there is, of course, nothing to
prevent them from doing this), the effect is to increase the
profit on the sale of liquid consumption-goods by an amount exactly equal to the
amount of profits which have been thus expended. This follows from our
definitions, because such expenditure constitutes a diminution of saving, and
therefore an increse in the difference between I' and S. Thus, however
much of their profits entrepreneurs spend on consumption, the increment of
wealth belonging to entrepreneurs remains the same as before. Thus
profits, as a source of capital increment for entrepreneur's, are a widow's
cruse which remains undepleted however much of them may be devoted to riotous
living. When, on the other hand, entrepreneurs are making losses, and seek
to recoup these losses by curtailing their normal expenditure on consumption,
i.e. by saving more, the cruse becomes a Danaid jar which can never be
filled up; for the effect of this reduced expenditure is to inflict on the
producers of consumption-goods a loss of an equal amount. Thus the
diminution of their wealth, as a class, is as great, in spite of their
savings, as it was before." (p. 139)
Keynes' confusion in this respect carried over into the General
Theory.
For replacement of Entrepreneurial Profits in the amount of NET
Investment by the concept of Expected Profits in the amount of
"SOMETHING" (Samuelson's phrase in Foundations of Economic Analysis, p.
87) cannot drive the Widow's Cruse out of business - for the Widow's Cruse was
born of the misguided attempt by Keynes to integrate Entrepreneurial
Profits and Income in a unitary scheme of monetary
analysis.
You insisted the other day that Keynes had been "consistent" in his
reasoning throughout the General Theory.
Insofar as the Widow's Cruse is concerned, the
"consistency" consisted in perpetuating gross analytical
error.
Gunnar
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunnar Tómasson" <gunnar.tomasson@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "pdavidso" <pdavidso@xxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Our Fundamental Theory Of Value [Was: Re: US Trade Deficit As 'World Engine Of Growth'? > Paul: > > > because the Keynes theory of value is developed inchapter 2 of my book > > FINANCIAL MARKETS, MONEY AND THE REAL WORLD. > > Great! > > Why don't you summarize it for PKT. > > Gunnar > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pdavidso" <pdavidso@xxxxxxx> > To: "Gunnar Tómasson" <gunnar.tomasson@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:38 PM > Subject: RE: Our Fundamental Theory Of Value [Was: Re: US Trade Deficit As > 'World Engine Of Growth'? > > > > >===== Original Message From Gunnar Tómasson <gunnar.tomasson@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > ===== > > >Paul: > > > > > >The point at issue is what Keynes termed "Our Fundamental Theory Of > Value". > > > > > >And that is something which you have NEVER addressed on PKT. > > > > > >Why? > > > > > > > > > > because the Keynes theory of value is developed inchapter 2 of my book > > FINANCIAL MARKETS, MONEY AND THE REAL WORLD. > > > > And that is something which you have NEVER addressed on PKT. > > > > Why? > > > > pAUL > > > > Paul Davidson > > Editor, Journal of Post Keynesian Economics > > University of Tennessee > > SMC 503 > > Knoxville, Tennessee 37996-0550 > > office phone #;(865)974-4221; office fax# (865)974-1686 or (865)974-4601 > > home phone and fax # (865)692-0802 > > email pdavidson@xxxxxxx > > http://econ.bus.utk.edu/davidsonextra/Davidson.html > > > > > |
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