The issue is not good or bad in a ethical sense, not even in an economics sense. The issue is good for whom and bad for whom in a game theroy context. Since finance globalization had been structured by those who have surplus capital to invest, it favors capital owners. Those needing capital had no input into the structuring of a system that fundamentally affects their fate. Thus neo-liberal market funamentalism is not fair trade. It is neo-imperilaism.
Further, the need fo cross border capital movement is not the word of God. In fact trade economics up to Bretton Wood substrabed to the theory that cross border fainance is destructive. This view was torpedoed by Nixon's taking the dollar off gold and by the need to recycle Petro dollars after Opec gained market power.
There is no option for non-dollar economies except to adopt capital control in the current international finance architecture. And because of dollar hegemony, FDI will only finance dollar earning enterprises, leaving domestic development starved for capital. And the State Theory of mMoney will not work because of foreign exchange implications.
It is not a theoretical issue. It is an operational issue. Who would want to particiate in a game where heads you lose and tails they win?
Henry C.K. Liu
Well, I do not think foreign capital is bad. There were jobs created with foreign capital. Foreign capital is neither bad nor good per se. And, perhaps, I was wrong in labelling "them" fair weathered friends as it was a mischaracterization of what foreign capital was in the context of the 1990's.
Nonetheless, it appears to me accurate that the policy adopted by the central bank, in light of the harm a depressed exchange rate could do to spending and well being, that capital controls were a justifiable policy even with a stated commitment to liberalized capital flows. Everyone was caught by surprise, in fact, even the IMF.
I can even fault the Asian countries themselves for a lack of foresight. They should have prepared for the possibility that bubbles were to form with such a huge influx of capital and debt.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Veeder" <eo200@xxxxxx> To: "post keynesian thought" <pkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Re: In Defense of Capital Controls
If I may interject.
There are two extreme starting positions with respect to the movement of capital.
1) The movement of capital is essentially a good thing, with some exceptions.
2) The movement of capital is essentially a bad thing, with some exceptions.
A call for 'capital controls' is consistent with the first position. However, if one supports the second position, a call capital controls will be viewed with cynicism and suspicion.
Harry Veeder
From: Gary Santos <evs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: Gary Santos <evs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:55:21 +0800 To: Tijani Mohammed <sheutij5@xxxxxxxxx>, EGroup PKT
<pkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: In Defense of Capital Controls
Shehu,
It seems to me that capital controls should be part of any developing country's tools. These countries have soft currencies and, by that fact, will be subject to balance of payments problems and impairment of central bank balance sheets in a regime of liberalized capital flows. In the Philippines, I saw the foreign funds get out at P26.50 as the stupid
central
bank governor held fast to the "floating within a band" policy. Now that
was
patently wrong from the point of view of those involved in the stock
market.
When dealers see a big seller out there, they know that the stock price
will
dive as he matches the bids. Result: All dealers get out of the way and
the
steep slide in the Index shows that. The Banko Sentral should have
followed
suit -- let the foreign funds get out at lower and lower exchange rates
just
as they had to get out of the stock market at lower and lower prices.
Serves
them right for being fair weathered friends.
"Second, the process of internationalization of capital has been
proceeding
as a strategic component of managed world trade." This seems to imply a cabal and a conspiracy. I have a hard time accepting this as is. The
dollar
tends to be supported by those who export to the US. It is an integral benefit to the US because its currency is used as reserves. So, I don't
know
about a cabal.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tijani Mohammed" <sheutij5@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Gary Santos" <evs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: Re: In Defense of Capital Controls
Santos
Globalization to me encompasses three interrelated factors: globally managed trade, internationalization of capital and state economic intervention. First, much of world trade in primary commodities and manufactured goods is under the control of transnational corporations. Second, the process of internationalization of capital has been proceeding as a strategic component of managed world trade. Finally, state economic intervention to aid these ongoing processes. Unless we see globalization from this perspective, we are likely going to commit unneccessary errors of judgement as to whether capital controls is useful or not useful.
Shehu Mohammed Aristotle University of Thessaloniki Greece. --- Gary Santos <evs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Interesting read for me.
http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Concourse/8751/edisi04/glob-01a.html
International Herald Tribune Paris, Friday, February 18, 2000
In Defense of Capital Controls At Trade Conference, a Push to Curb Forces of Globalization By Thomas Crampton International Herald Tribune
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At the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development in Bangkok, Yilmaz Akyuz, the principal author of the conference's flagship annual report, argued that developing nations faced continuing perils from globalization. Mr. Akyuz, chief of macroeconomic and development policies for the conference, spoke Thursday with Thomas Crampton of the International Herald Tribune.
Q. Do you approve of capital controls to protect the economies of developing countries?
A. Yes. Unless you have checks and balances in the movement of capital you will be subject to the boom-bust phenomenon that is an integral part of the current international financial system. There are no global arrangements to control international movement of capital, so you must fall back on your national policies.
Q. What about those who argue that capital controls discourage foreign investment?
A. That is nonsense. If you look at new foreign direct investment, where do they go most? China. China receives the largest portion of new investment in the developing world and China has no capital account convertibility.
Q. Do capital controls hinder free trade?
A. You have to be careful because a lot of short-term capital flows are linked to trade, but on the other hand, the world has had free trade evolving since World War II under capital controls. A stable exchange rate and stable monetary conditions are important for the expansion of trade.
Q. What is the role of corruption in creating financial crises?
A. Cronyism, corruption and moral hazard were not major causes of Asia's recent economic crisis. Corruption and cronyism did not increase suddenly in the late 1990s to create the financial crisis. The institutions and relationships people blame are not new, what is new is the opening of financial flows. The same close government and business relations that were praised for creating the Asian miracle, have now been turned upside down and receive all the blame.
Q. How do you view the recovery in many developing economies?
A. The markets went down much too far due to the incorrect orthodox policies put in place by multilateral financial institutions. When these policies were reversed, the economies bounced back. That fiscal deficits and exports are driving the economies - not investment or consumer spending - backs up our view that the high interest rates and austerity measures were incorrect. There is, however, still excess capacity in these economies and it remains to be seen how it will be dealt with.
Q. What is the greatest danger now for developing economies?
A. If the U.S. economy slows down and a significant economic expansion does not take place in Japan and Europe, developing nations will face very difficult time.
Q. Any sign that America has developed a higher sensitivity to the delicate global economic situation?
A. Alan Greenspan made a very positive response by cutting interest rates after the Russian crisis. There were real dangers to the U.S. economy, but it is the first and perhaps the only time that U.S. monetary policy action was taken with global considerations. I do not see this as a trend. As soon as Wall Street went up, Greenspan returned to setting monetary policy on the basis of domestic considerations alone.
Q. What in this Unctad conference compared with the last one?
A. It has become clear that globalization is a process guided by the powerful few which has created inherent asymmetries that are hurting developing countries. The main message coming out is that globalization is not delivering and there is a danger of backlash against freer trade.
Q. Are you against globalization?
A. I am not against the greater economic integration of countries. What I am against is the process being swayed by the powerful players or unbridled market forces. It is not now governed by equity and fairness.
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