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The US and China and Other Superpowers
- To: "Post Keynesian Thought" <pkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <RHolt1234@xxxxxxx>, "W. Curtiss Priest" <bmslib@xxxxxxx>, "Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Sven R Larson" <larson@xxxxxx>, "Alan G. Isaac" <aisaac@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Prof James Galbraith" <galbraith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Paul Davidson" <pdavidson@xxxxxxx>, "Mason Clark" <masonc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Per Gunnar Berglund" <BergP867@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Trond Andresen" <trond.andresen@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Victory Over Want" <vow@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: The US and China and Other Superpowers
- From: "John Gelles" <johng@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:27:57 -0700
It may be that PKT will refuse to distribute this -- that
is PKT will "moderate" or filter it out.
They may be right to do so. Ric has his headaches.
But Hank Liu is "wrong" (IMO) with his version of past
and future forces and events. He must be answered.
If you need a copy of his piece, email me back and
I'll see what I can do.
[In re-reading my words, I made a few changes.]
John
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gelles <johng@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Post Keynesian Thought <pkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:36 PM
Subject: China, Etc.
I hope James Galbraith will give us his take on
the US and China in the current effort to make
globalization serve the nations and peoples it
affects. He is in a position to know what these
two continental nations, located well to be
natural friends, ought to be doing -- and what
they may be doing.
It is obvious to me the USA will share economic,
political and military power with China (including
a happy relationship between two great blue water
navies) in the decades ahead. By the end of the
century, differences between political elites of
both nations will be no more than those within
them -- unless China cannot keep up with the
other great continental powers -- for no particular
reason.
My facts are simple: There are five great continental
superpowers: USA, Europe (incl. UK), Russia,
China and India. They have to live in peace and
make the earth better and better.
There is no rivalry of significance left, such as the
ones that bathed the world in blood in the 20th
century.
Of course Europe, the USA, Russia, India and China
will not be the same. One or another power will have
more clout of one kind or another. But their common
interest will be to keep world war and the end of life on
earth from happening. It will be a MAD sane world.
There will be athletic, scientific and cultural competition.
All will be winners.
As to which nation will first use Keynesian insights to
separate spending from taxing -- that will be a matter
of chance. But we can be sure capitalism will soon
sponsor "spending enough" to support democratic
prosperity. Debt will be redefined in the light of
production goals for the things earth needs -- not in
terms of mortgages on old stuff. Debt may even be
completely married to equity.
There is a current problem: militant and terrorististic
Islamic potentials, relative to their Secular, Christian,
Indian and Chinese neighbors. The Ottoman Empire is
gone. There appears to be no need replace it with a
continental power on the scale of the big 5 above.
Great things in the 22nd Century from South America
and Africa may come along. Or, by then, a functioning
UN may have assumed a major political role -- and the
big 5 will be merged into its nucleus.
Why such gross speculation? Because Hank Liu has
an incoherent view that, if even half-realistic, would
amount to a doomesday forecast.
John Gelles -- Rooting for Bush and Cheney so far.
- Thread context:
- Re: (none), (continued)
- [no subject],
g kohler Sun 21 Apr 2002, 02:34 GMT
- Re:,
Leigh Harkness Mon 22 Apr 2002, 10:54 GMT
- Stiglitz' Global Greenbacks Idea,
Gunnar Tomasson Sat 20 Apr 2002, 20:50 GMT
- The US and China and Other Superpowers,
John Gelles Fri 19 Apr 2002, 16:28 GMT
- Seventh International Post Keynesian Workshop,
Lee, Frederic Fri 19 Apr 2002, 15:37 GMT
- Globalization and its Discontents,
John Gelles Fri 19 Apr 2002, 04:12 GMT
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