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Re: elasticity of production



David
Again, well stated. I have no disagreement with any of this.

My problem with Keynes' view is I now think the demand for money is not
like a volitional demand for other comodities, but what I have termed
convenience lending to the banking system. Demand carries with it in my
mind the notion of volition. It is not that people volitionally want to
hold more money than is available. It is rather that they do not want to
spend enough on currently-produced goods and services to equal the full
employment supply capacity of the economy.

You can term this with Keynes "demand for money" or "liquidity preference"
. But it is really a deficient AD for goods and services, and not an excess
demand for money balances. There is always an excess demand for money, in
the sense that additional money is always demanded (accepted) without a
change in its price. This is the nature of the money commodity, generally
accepted in exchange, with no change in its price.

Basil

At 09:31 AM 3/9/01 -0500, you wrote:
David
An excellent response. I agree completely.
But see my reply to Paul on why I think it is misleading, for theory and
policy. It appears to imply that the cause of AD deficiency and
involuntary unemployment is because the MS is TOO SMALL ,whereas the real
reason is because the rate of interest is TOO HIGH.
Basil
At 02:31 PM 3/8/01 -0300, you wrote:
Dear Basil and others,

I can agree that Keynes was confusing (as distinct from wrong), and that
his confusion had to do with his not assuming endogenous money. He was
confusing because, when writing about the elasticity of production, he
mixed a discussion of variations in the volume of labour with a discussion
of variations in the quantity produced of an asset.

As I said earlier, in chapter 17 he *defines* the elasticity of production
in terms of a change in the volume of *labour*: 'the response of the
quantity of labour applied to producing it [money] to a rise in the
quantity of labour which a unit of it will command'(Keynes, 1936: 230). The
point seems to be that, if money becomes more attractive as an asset, this
will not significantly increase the volume of employment. Strictly
speaking, this definition, per se, does not mean that the supply of money
is fixed (for example, it could be used together with the assumption that
money is endogenous).

Confusion arises when then, on the same page, Keynes discusses changes in
the quantity of *an asset* (as distinct from labour), because this is what
matters for his discussion of changes in the asset's own-rate. In the case
of money, he then argues that the supply if fixed (abstracting from 'a
deliberate increase in its supply by the monetary authority' and, as Basil
points out, from endogenous money).

By the way, confusion increases when, in chapter 20, he offers a different
definition of the elasticity of production, now in terms of a change in
output in response to a change in demand. This is the definition that Basil
and Kazuhiro could use to make their point about *the elasticity of
production*, not the definition given in chapter 17, p. 230 - but see my
comment below on one of the essential properties of money. With exogenous
money and a fixed supply, these two definitions are quite similar (the
quantity of labour employed and the quantity of money supplied will not
increase much when the demand for money increases), but with endogenous
money this is not the case.

Now, if we want to consider endogenous money, we should distinguish the
issue of changes in labour employed to produce money from the issue of
changes in the quantity of money. With exogenous money the distinction is
not so important as with endogenous money, and perhaps this is why Keynes,
assuming exogenous money in the GT, was not very concerned with making the
distinction clear or even perhaps aware of its importance.
I insist that on p. 230 he defines the elasticity of production in terms of
the first issue, although he is confusing about its relation to the second
issue. However, regardless of the semantic issue of how to define the
elasticity of production, it seems to me that one of the essential
properties of money is that not much more labour can be employed to produce
money when the demand for it increases. This is also an essential property
of other very liquid assets. Therefore, when liquidity preference increases
this does not lead to an increase in employment. The recognition of this
property, *regardless of whether it is called a low elasticity of
production or not*, is an essential part of Keynes's theory and, I would
argue, of a good Post Keynesian theory. In contrast, assuming exogenous
money is not essential. The introduction of endogenous money does not
change that essential property, although it does change the possibility of
increasing the money supply.

Hope this contributes to our dialogue. Cheers,
David




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