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Re: -Reply: What is Economics?
On Tue, 28 Feb 1995, Bruce McFarling wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 1995, GREG RANSOM wrote:
>>
>> Economics has from its origins been concerned with how an extended
order of human interaction comes into existence through a process of
variation, winnowing and sifting far suppassing our vision or capacity
of design ... Modern economics explains how an extended order can
come into being, and how it itself constitutes an information-gathering
process, able to call up, and to put to use, widely dispersed
information that no central planning agency, let along any individual,
could know as a whole, possess or control...
> The only problem here is that what you are
> describing is technological progress, and technological
> progress ...
> One of the reasons for confusing market
> insitutions and their consequences with technological
> growth is the exponential illusion: exponential growth
> looks like its accelerating, when in fact all that has
> happened is an increase in the base: there appears to
> have been faster growth over the last 500 years, while
> market-oriented nations have come to dominance, but much
> of this is the same rate of growth on a larger base.
> A second [reason] is a history, since the enlightenment,
> of making up fictional prehistories to support current
> theories, and this is a bad habit that is still too
> prevalent in economics.
> Virtually,
> Bruce McFarling, Knoxville brmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Moreover, Greg,
Markets, technology, and language, have all
evolved without an a priori plan -- but with a trail
of laws, customs and institutions in their wake!
You make no point at all with a Hayekian ideal
that laws, customs and institutions are not shaped by
human will and planning in this process.
You seem to object to shaping laws, customs and
institutions to make common sense. Why make such an
anti-common sensical demand on people?
The Constitution is a plan that works well.
Would you replace it with anarchy or the rules posted
at the Ventura City Saturday Farmers Market?
We do not constrain language to the point of
ineffectuality by using dictionaries and literary
examples in furtherance of its purpose -- to allow humans
to communicate, learn and survive.
We will not constrain markets to the point of
ineffectuality by using property law, contract law,
police law, environmental protection law, safety codes,
or laws realting to world peace, world trade, domestic
priorities, domestic money, domestic full employment,
or domestic democratic institutions, -- all of these
laws in furtherance of a market's purpose -- to allow
humans to produce and consume and survive, generally
and perhaps for many more millennia, to accomplish the
purposes written in the Preamble to the Constitution
of the United States. Read it. (Hayek must be read to
conform to that Preamble or just not read at all.)
Respectfully, John
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- Thread context:
- Re: -Reply -Reply,
Ajit Sinha Tue 28 Feb 1995, 04:31 GMT
- Re: -Reply: What is Economics?,
McClintockBrent%faculty%Carthage Tue 28 Feb 1995, 04:31 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: -Reply: What is Economics?,
GREG RANSOM Tue 28 Feb 1995, 05:47 GMT
- Re: -Reply: What is Economics?,
Bruce McFarling Tue 28 Feb 1995, 13:33 GMT
- Re: -Reply: What is Economics?,
John Gelles Tue 28 Feb 1995, 17:09 GMT
- Re: -Reply: What is Economics?,
Bruce McFarling Tue 28 Feb 1995, 17:33 GMT
- Re: -Reply: What is Economics?,
Jim Devine Tue 28 Feb 1995, 19:10 GMT
- Albert Deane's "American Plan",
Ron Galea Tue 28 Feb 1995, 01:46 GMT
- Re: -Reply -Reply,
bill mitchell Mon 27 Feb 1995, 23:57 GMT
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