Re: Re: hitler and keynes

[Andy <soc40001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I was going to say something like this. From a socialist who is not a
totalitarian: Thanks!

Andy Austin
soc40001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, BILL MITCHELL wrote:

> Dear John (who said among a other things):
>
> >	Certainly, TGT was written with human rights in
> >	mind. The idea that it may serve as a Theory for
> >	Totalitarianism runs up against the fact that
> >	socialism is a far better theory for that.
>
> I think the GT was written as a defence of capitalism - by suggesting that with
> some market tinkering full employment could be attained. Keynes, i think,
> failed to understand the hatred that the "captains of industry" had for full
> employment and the power they hold in their investment decisions. Marx had
> understood it as did Kalecki in Keynes era. Kalecki was a far more crafted
> thinker than the bourgois Keynes.
>
> anyway the criticism i have of the above paragraph is
>
> (a) as  a defence of capitalism it could not at the same time be a defence of
> human rights. capitalism violates human rights by taking production of workers
> without payment.
>
> (b) how do you get socialism becoming a theory of totalitarianism? I thought
> socialism was a theory of human rights. don't you mean stalinism or something
> else? come to think of it, American sponsored Indonesian imperialism in East
> Timor is a bit like totalitarianism to me - capitalist motivated at that.
>
> why not just start each of your mails by saying you hate marx and socialism -
> it is a repeating theme, under almost any topic heading.
>
> this is of-course not to decry your efforts. every contributor makes the list.
>
> kind regards
> bill
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