Re: [Pen-l] A velvet revolution in Iran?

[ravi <ravi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Jun 27, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Louis Proyect wrote:
> ken hanly wrote:
>
> > So you do nothing to show that what Khameni says is wrong you  
> > simply engage in an ad hominem diatribe. Given that the US is  
> > spending money to destablise the Iranian regime and have engaged in  
> > attempts at regime change elsewhere what Khameni says is on the  
> > face of it quite plausible.
>
> Of course the USA is trying to destabilize Iran. But main source of  
> destabilization are clerics forcing their will on the population.

I am not sure what destabilise means here... Iran has been fairly  
stable under the clerics, hasn't it? But one thing seems to be the  
case: we (USA) are a much greater danger/threat to Iranians than the  
clerics are. If that is so, perhaps all US leftists should be  
demonstrating solidarity with the Iranian public by calling for  
apologies for prior actions and promises of no future ones. Over on  
lbo-talk, dismissing an argument using the term "anti-imperialist" in  
an ill-reasoned pejorative way has come to pass for serious debate (a  
luxury of those who have lived on the right side of imperialism, I  
guess), but even if you (hypothetical "you") are in favour of the  
demands of the segments marching against the election results today, a  
robust opposition to imperialism (in its many forms) seems, just  
pragmatically speaking, not contradictory but congruent.

	--ravi


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