Re: [Pen-l] torture chic

[Bill Lear <rael@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 10:51:38 (-0400) Max Sawicky writes:
>I modestly venture to say that ALL governments resort to torture --
>however unjustified -- in the face of threats to their authority or
>policies.  That's why I'm struck by all the hoo-ha about this,
>especially in re: the USG.  After all, as we speak and in the past the
>US is openly blowing people up indiscriminately via aerial bombing.  I
>don't think it's cynical to acknowledge that.  It's not cynical to
>observe that lions will devour baby antelopes without remorse.  It's
>just a fact.
>
>You (List, not Michael or anyone in particular) could say outrage is
>called for in hopes of remedying the situation.  But to me hopes of
>remedy in this matter are like hopes that the central security organs
>of the Gov would be dismantled.  Not going to happen.  That's a
>liberal delusion.  (Cue Cmd. Cox.)
>
>Or you could say the issue is useful for political agitation, either
>progressive or radical.  That strikes me as a bit cynical, though I
>wouldn't be above exploiting it myself.  As a practical matter, I'm
>skeptical as to the uses of torture to score political points.
>
>Fire away.

So if your daughter were raped you would just say, "as we speak and in
the past, rapes have happened" and that "hopes of remedy in this
matter" are really pointless?


Bill
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