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Re: [Pen-l] Religious atheism [was: Charter schools
- To: Progressive Economics <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Religious atheism [was: Charter schools
- From: ravi <ravi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:49:22 -0500
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On Feb 28, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Carl Dassbach wrote:
Nor was Buddha part of the Hindu
pantheon. Instead, Buddhism represents a "solution" - based on the
Four
Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path - to the "problem" of samsara -
the
endless cycle of death, birth and rebirth - posited by Hinduism.
<...>
It rejects all these because these are forms of attachment and
attachment
causes suffering.
Samsara does not mean just the cycle of rebirth (in which I have no
interest and which I do not consider a significant or well-defined
problem), but also the issue of the worldly aspects of one's life
(samsara also means a family life, and in certain usages ("samsaram),
means spouse). The problem with this, as seen through Gautama's eyes
is the attendant miseries ... the young prince's reaction to this
messy, gritty real world is to seek detachment from the whole business.
Now, I am not a Buddhist and I do not know the more intricate details
of the matter, so I will not comment further on what I see as a form
of escapism. Rather, I will return to Hinduism's response to this
problem which is defines quite well, before Gautama's crisis occurs.
Krishna, both in the Gita and in one of his parables to his devotee
Narada, addresses the issue of attachment. In all cases, Hinduism
rejects escapism from one's dharma (the Shankaracharya suffers this
very weakness in a debate), but instead advices, in a line that many
of us as children were made to memorise blindly ;-): karmanye
vadhikarasthe ma phaleshu kadachana, ma karma phala hetur bhurmate
sangotsva akarmani", which I will translate here, thus: always perform
your actions (duties), but perform them with detachment.
I think Kierkegaard and Heidegger echo quite well what Hinduism
describes/prescribes. As also the fellows in Brooklyn and NJ, who say
"What can I say? You gotta do what you gotta do".
--ravi
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