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Re: [Pen-l] Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years
- To: Progressive Economics <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years
- From: Laurent GUERBY <laurent@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:38:18 +0100
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 23:12 -0500, Sabri Oncu wrote:
> This is not a good graph Julio, because it is comparing oranges and
> apples. S&P and Gold are fine but that 30-year bond is not, because
> while the S&P and Gold performances in that graph are measured in
> units of return, the 30-year bond performance is measured probably in
> terms of the "on-the-run" 30-year bond yield, which is, by the way,
> semi-annually compounding. For a more meaningful comparison, you need
> to replace that 30-year bond with a long-term US Treasury ETF, if you
> can find one, so that all performances are measured in returns. If you
> do what I suggest, we will see that in the same period the long-term
> treasuries did quite well too. It is for sure that they did way better
> than S&P but I don't have a feel for how they did relative to Gold,
> although I don't think they did that miserably: their performance
> should be in the range from 40% to 60% or so in that five years.
Another thing that is misleading is that the S&P is a "best of"
index, that is good performers come in the index with time
while low performers get excluded. To be fair with the
bonds more than one maturity should be used and use
similar weighting than S&P use for shares.
(And take what the jargon calls "total returns".)
Laurent
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- Thread context:
- [Pen-l] Re: Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years, (continued)
- [Pen-l] Re: Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years,
Sabri Oncu Sat 31 Jan 2009, 20:41 GMT
- [Pen-l] Re: Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years,
Sabri Oncu Sat 31 Jan 2009, 21:17 GMT
- [Pen-l] Re: Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years,
Sabri Oncu Sat 31 Jan 2009, 21:26 GMT
- Re: [Pen-l] Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years,
Laurent GUERBY Sat 31 Jan 2009, 22:11 GMT
- [Pen-l] Re: Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years,
Sabri Oncu Sat 31 Jan 2009, 23:50 GMT
- [Pen-l] Re: Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years,
Sabri Oncu Sun 01 Feb 2009, 00:10 GMT
- [Pen-l] Performance of gold, SP500, and 30-Yr T-Bond in last 5 years,
Julio Huato Sat 31 Jan 2009, 20:45 GMT
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