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Re: [Pen-l] doubling global stimulus through SDRs (secret message for Obama entourage)
- To: Progressive Economics <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Pen-l] doubling global stimulus through SDRs (secret message for Obama entourage)
- From: Ann Davis <davisa@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:43:36 -0500
Gernot wrote:
"However miserly and problematic current SDRs may be, they are fiat
money created at the global level. That is important as a principle. That
means that the world system has already an organization that performs a
function that is normally performed by national central banks, namely,
creating fiat money out of nothing. In true Anglo-Saxon fashion one could
use that precedent and enlarge and refine it. An organization that can
create small amounts of fiat money out of nothing could also create large
amounts of fiat money out of nothing. Why not? And instead of rescuing
the rich with those funds, it could disburse them to qualified recipients
in poor countries. (Details to be worked out by an army of
economists.)"
"For a post-keynesian view
on credit, including global-level, see, for example, Moore, B. (1988),
Horizontalists and Verticalists: The Macroeconomics of Credit Money.
Cambridge, USA: Cambridge University Press."
reply:
I'm not that familiar with Moore's thought (although I am aware of him),
and would appreciate a synopsis.
To me, the importance is the governance mechanism of the
SDRs............transparency, equal access, rules of the game that
support domestic tools to promote full employment, public investment, and
greater equality, as Keynes (that well-known radical) supported.......The
process gets more complicated when determining the limits of money
creation, and questions of full employment vs. inflation, if there is not
a better way to manage income distribution already in place.....which is
another issue of transparency.
I just rediscovered that Keynes wrote of the "euthanasia of the
rentier"..........which sounds somewhat utopian today.
Comments welcome.
Ann
At 07:04 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote:
Ann wrote [quote] The importance
of a coordinated international stimulus is also stressed by Roubini in
the R G E Monitor newsletter quoted below . . .[end quote]
Jim wrote [quote] are SDRs a substitute for the US$? would the expansion
of their supply undermine the legitimacy of the US dollar as a _
world currency _? could they turn into bancor? [end quote]
COMMENT
Suppose the president of the US empire were a socialist (and his
ideological stand accepted and certified by the core members of pen-l),
what could be proposed to him as regards the global dimension of the
present crisis? My suggestion (i.e., issuing 1 trillion SDRs) is meant to
indicate a direction of action and is not meant as a blueprint ready for
signature by the imperial president. SDRs are presently issued by the IMF
in rather small quantities. Another minus is that they come from the
IMF.
However miserly and problematic current SDRs may be, they are fiat money
created at the global level. That is important as a principle. That means
that the world system has already an organization that performs a
function that is normally performed by national central banks, namely,
creating fiat money out of nothing. In true Anglo-Saxon fashion one could
use that precedent and enlarge and refine it. An organization that can
create small amounts of fiat money out of nothing could also create large
amounts of fiat money out of nothing. Why not? And instead of rescuing
the rich with those funds, it could disburse them to qualified recipients
in poor countries. (Details to be worked out by an army of
economists.)
I believe that most socialists are cold to the notion and discrete charme
of global fiat money because it is not in the books of Old Whiskers. KM
believed in the gold standard. Gold was the true international money in
his view.
For a post-keynesian view on credit, including global-level, see, for
example, Moore, B. (1988), Horizontalists and Verticalists: The
Macroeconomics of Credit Money. Cambridge, USA: Cambridge University
Press.
Gernot
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