Re: [Pen-l] Obama's polls

[Jim Devine <jdevine03@xxxxxxxxx>]

Shane Mage wrote:
> Conversely, the [Roman Catholic] Church counts Angelo Roncalli as its 23rd Pope John," even though he was the 24th--Baldassare Cossa, the real "John 23," is excluded from its history as an "antipope" even though both his election and
destitution were by General Councils of the Church. <

yeah, Cossa should be counted. If Ratzinger can open the Catholic
doors to Holocaust deniers, why shouldn't a professional pirate be
allowed in?

(Quoth the Wikipedia: >> Edward Gibbon asserts in The History of the
Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire that John XXIII was charged with
piracy, murder, rape, simony, and incest, with the more serious
charges being suppressed. Of course, this must be viewed in the light
of the political situation of the time, as the charges were likely
trumped up; note the similarity to the charges against the Knights
Templar.<<)

if an anti-Pope and a Pope shake hands, what happens?
-- 
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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