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From: Seth Sandronsky <ssandronsky@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:26:38 -0800 (PST)
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If California was a nation, the state would rank sixth in total prisoners, 174,000, around the world. The nations with higher prisoner populations than Californiaʼs (with vastly larger non-prison populaces) are: Brazil, 361,402; China, 1,548,498; India, 332,112; Mexico, 214,450; and Russia, 869,814.

Seth

Source: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/law/research/icps/downloads/world-prison-pop-seventh.pdf

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:36:25 -0800

From: Jim Devine <jdevine03@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [Pen-l] worse or better than 1982?

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Eugene Coyle wrote:

> In the various adjustments to the unemployment rate, is the

> BLS or Leonhardt or anyone else adding the couple of

> million in jail and prison to the presently unemployed? The > number incarcerated has soared since 1982.

no they aren't. Good point. If I remember correctly, Katz and Krueger (1999) argue that rising incarceration has lowered the amount of structural unemployment. (The High-Pressure U.S. Labor Market of the 1990s. Brookings Papers on Economic Activity. 1: 1-65.)

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