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Re: [Pen-l] Lobbying
- To: "David B. Shemano" <dshemano@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Progressive Economics" <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Lobbying
- From: raghu <mraghu01@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:43:34 -0800
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:39 PM, David B. Shemano <dshemano@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> <<<I suppose Marxists could resolve this dilemma by arguing people do not
> necessarily have conflicting interests, but personally, that to me is closer
> to flying people than a world of clean water.
>
> <<<What makes you thinks Marxists believe such a preposterous thing?
>
> To be fair to me, Marxists presumably believe in "class conflict" and that
> true communism will be a post-historical stage where such conflict ceases to
> exist. There is certainly the implication that "conflict" in such a world
> will be qualitatively different -- as the citizenry will all be free,
> rational, etc., disputes will by definition be almost trivial -- how could
> free and rational individuals disagree on something really material? I
> suppose you can qualify such concepts to be practically meaningless in
> context, but do Marxists really want to do that? Do you want to take the
> position that there will be serious conflict in utopia? How disappointing.
I don't consider myself a Marxist, but this seems to be a very poor
caricature of that school of thought. As I understand it, in a
communist world, one specific form of conflict would cease to exist:
class conflict. Thats it. I am sure even in a communist world there
will be people who want to banish evolution from school textbooks and
so on.
-raghu.
--
"Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time." - Steven Wright
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