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Re: [Pen-l] "center-right" president?
- To: "Progressive Economics" <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Pen-l] "center-right" president?
- From: Sandwichman <lumpoflabor@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:12:22 -0800
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I'm with Doyle on this. A phony "center-left" Obama administration
would accomplish nothing in its 16 month interregnum until the
inevitable sharp center-right-turn correction for the congressional
mid-terms. Events, not personnel, are going to determine whether Obama
can restore the neo-liberal hegemony.
This is the Clinton-costume-party phase of the drama. But we're not in
Kansas, any more, Toto. And it's not 1992 all over again.
On 11/22/08, Doyle Saylor <doylesaylor@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Greetings Economists,
> I can't see LP's comments as in the ball park. There are two obvious
> things happening, first the flow against racism in electing Obama is a
> definite left drift. Palin can't represent that nor any of like elements in
> the republicans.
>
> Secondly, the bad economy discredits neo-liberal economics.
>
> In light of those facts, it is inconceivable that a shift right can happen
> in the U.S. back to failed policies. The real question is what happens to
> the war machine as the economy declines? I would expect that the wars don't
> go well because the global economy won't permit a good resolution for U.S.
> hegemonic power. A right shift might emerge in trying to address threats
> from the outside U.S. hegemonic power. Mainly in the sense that a hegemonic
> shift invites new options for the power.
>
> I welcome Obama going to the right center. This offers the same prospects
> as did Bush to push things left in the U.S. The working class freed of
> racist illusions is much more likely to unite behind their interests. This
> uniting is likely to scare the right and polarize the U.S., but in a wholly
> new context.
> thanks,
> Doyle Saylor
> On Nov 22, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Michael Perelman wrote:
>
>
> > I was half rooting for Bush to win following the same logic as Lou,
> > worrying that a Gore or Kerry victory would set off the same response from
> > the Dems. that Lou predicts as a response to Obama. I was hoping against
> > hope that the idiocy of the Repubs would set off some sort of reaction in
> > the streets or even perhaps among the Dems' imaginary grass roots.
> >
> > Damn it Lou, I hope that you are wrong, even though ....
> >
>
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- Re: [Pen-l] "center-right" president?, (continued)
- [Pen-l] Manga Marx,
McDonough, Terrence Sat 22 Nov 2008, 10:44 GMT
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