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Re: [Pen-l] Exchange on I.F. Stone
- To: Progressive Economics <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Exchange on I.F. Stone
- From: ravi <ravi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:03:54 -0500
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On Nov 20, 2008, at 10:51 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
Louis Proyect quotes:
Martin Heidegger, who not only welcomed the Nazi Party's rise to
power,
but remained a proud member of the Nazi Party until the end of the
war.
ravi wrote:
Well played! A smear by association, in response to another!
are you saying that Heidegger wasn't a Nazi?
I am saying that calling Heidegger a Nazi, which is essentially an
attempt to tie him to mass murder of Romas, homosexuals and Jews, is
the rough equivalent (if technically more accurate) of calling someone
a Stalinist because he had some sympathy with the CPUSA at some point.
Yes, Heidegger was a card-carrying member of the party, and even gave
a few positive speeches about national socialism and the "Führer" but
IMHO these were motivated by his esoteric hopes and dreams of German
nationalism and revivalism, as also his somewhat cowardly ambitions
and impatient authoritarianism (ironically, the quote that the WSWS
offers, from as early as mid-1934, in their attempt to damn the man,
illustrates the true nature of Heidegger's involvement with national
socialism and his ignorant attempt to tie the movement into his own
philosophies: “The stuff which is now being bandied about as the
philosophy of National Socialism—but which has not the least to do
with the inner truth and greatness of this movement (namely the
encounter between global technology and modern man)—is casting its net
in these troubled waters of ‘values' and ‘totalities'.”). He spent a
year or so as a rector at Freiburg (which ended, IIRC, 1935), by some
accounts discriminating against Jews, by other accounts sheltering
some of them, but there is enough reason to believe his attitude
bordered on anti-semitism. After the war, he kept mum and when his big
mysterious explication was finally published in the later half of the
20th century, it was mostly more self-extrication. None of that adds
up to or justifies the knee-jerk response that Western readers are
conditioned to exhibit when they hear the word "Nazi".
--ravi
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