Re: [Pen-l] The fundamental crisis response. was Ecological creditcrunch

[Carrol Cox <cbcox@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jim Devine wrote:
> 
> raghu wrote:
> > To be clear, when I say growth I always mean GDP growth.
> 
> why not simply say "GDP growth" then?

I think Raghu has a point. Growth is a concept (and certainly a word)
that pretty much belongs to The Enemy. A, perhaps the, defining feature
of capitalism in contnrast to every other actual or envisaged social
system is that it cannot not Grow in Raghu's sense. That need to grow to
survive is (I think) another way to express its necessary instability. I
think we should leave them the word and articulate our goals in
different vocabulary.

For example, the Sandwichman's demand for shorter hours (which I agree
whould be core to our program) fits uncomfortably into any vocabulary of
growth, no matter how we attempt to define or redefine the term.

Carrol

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