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Re: [Pen-l] The precarious struggle between race and class
Greetings Economists,
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:
What will happen when things don't change?
Doyle;
That is exactly the question that needs attention now. Previous
reformist periods in the U.S. produced significant social change. In
the case of a bad economy, Roosevelt. A reformist period must produce
results because the period demands re-unity from the failures of past
status quo.
The left will as a necessity define the reformist period from the
vantage point of equality and democracy for the working class. Such
and such is what needs to happen. And because of the inertia of
previous periods weighs down capitalist reform the left is free to
tell a story not yet or perhaps never going to happen with
capitalism. Marx could talk about social security because it did not
exist but was feasible.
If reforms fail, then the consensus collapses that founded reform.
The right gets stronger resisting all, and enjoys support because they
won against reform. The old ways will work because the reforms don't
appeal on a gut level if not for reason.
Contra; collapse forces most people to their limits of meaning or
received reason. The door is open can we walk out of the cabin fever
and enjoy some fresh air? Or perhaps a more appealing metaphor have a
better life?
If reform fails there are two great driving social forces, climate
change, and energy management. Just as Japan could not stand the
energy strangulation prior to WWII, the world cannot long evade energy
and climate change. Conservatives would grab for power to maintain
'order' and the left would formulate the new consensus for the vast
majority.
For the left the barrier of developed versus undeveloped is the key to
social change. A unified global movement is somewhat more feasible
because of the last period raising China and India economic
development. A left demand for global unity arises from reformist
demands for action on climate and energy. Nationalizing banks hardly
works now and must be about concerted efforts globally. Building the
basis for broad global reform. Just a step away from global food
efforts, global administrative structures, global transportation
structures and so on, no nation can hope to produce alone.
Hence revolutionary change is global change if reformers can't achieve
their promises.
An important line in the sand is basic promises like health care. If
Obama can't produce such small scale changes then collapse is likely
of reform and revolution on the global scale is likely. On a larger
stage, Obama must act against climate change immediately as well.
Transportation, energy in the U.S. must change very quickly. Or the
result is a little slower but similarly to no reform at all. The
reform however, must be global and fast, so I expect Obama to fail
simply because U.S. weakness now prevents them from unilateral action
when ten years ago it might have been taken seriously as a hegemonic
goal. Hence social revolution (globalist answers) is imminent (in a
decades measuring time frame though) because all other options are
closing down.
thanks,
Doyle Saylor
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- Thread context:
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Louis Proyect Sun 12 Oct 2008, 18:37 GMT
- [Pen-l] The Wall Street Coup and the Bailout Scam,
Louis Proyect Sun 12 Oct 2008, 13:36 GMT
- [Pen-l] The precarious struggle between race and class,
Marvin Gandall Sun 12 Oct 2008, 12:39 GMT
- [Pen-l] Religulous,
Jim Devine Sat 11 Oct 2008, 19:20 GMT
- [Pen-l] The specter of a no-growth world,
Louis Proyect Sat 11 Oct 2008, 13:38 GMT
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