Re: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son

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Subject: Re: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son
From: Doyle Saylor <doylesaylor@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:11:02 -0700

Greetings Economists,
On Aug 29, 2008, at 6:17 PM, ravi wrote:

The problem with it, as I see it, is that in order to see it as a disability rights issue, I have to first see it as a foetus rights issue,

Doyle; Then the issue should be seen from a perspective that is divorced from concepts of human being that churches came up with.

First one must admit that abortion rights were a solution to the injustices of women forced to have babies against their will. The absolutist principle then ignores the underlying eugenics thinking that appears in aborting Downs Syndrome, and the sexist attitudes that abort female fetuses.

The framework for a counter left view of the human species is being worked out quietly, but I can mention two heroes of mine, Martha Nussbaum whose several books lay out a case in depth for disability rights no longer tied to church doctrines of 'life'. And secondly Chai Feldblum of Georgetown University law binding together gay rights and disability rights in a flexibility doctrine.

The foundations of the thinking that the left assumes without debate about abortion are the key issue. It is possible and in my view as well as necessary to advance a comprehensive view of the species and it's place in the world. And I turn to your many comments in recent years about the need to re-examine the role of religion and the often human centered thinking of left politics that cannot really resolve the problems of people who cling to old views. We must in some sense have the ability to not just argue for unions, but the for the deepest concerns all of us face. We cannot any longer hope by knocking down church towers think this meets what the vast majority wants from the left.

We must as it were recreate a sense of human meaning that is missing from the 'principles' of abortion rights. thanks, Doyle Saylor _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l

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- [Pen-l] China's CNPC seals $3bn Iraq deal, joglekarulhas Fri 29 Aug 2008, 15:06 GMT
- [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate, Jim Devine Fri 29 Aug 2008, 14:46 GMT
  - [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son, Doyle Saylor Sat 30 Aug 2008, 00:42 GMT
    - Re: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son, ravi Sat 30 Aug 2008, 00:58 GMT
      
      Re: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son, Doyle Saylor Sat 30 Aug 2008, 01:52 GMT
      
      RE: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son, Perelman, Michael Sat 30 Aug 2008, 02:38 GMT
      
      Re: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son, Doyle Saylor Sat 30 Aug 2008, 02:54 GMT
      
      Re: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son, ravi Sat 30 Aug 2008, 03:24 GMT
      
      Re: [Pen-l] McCain's veep candidate has Down Syndrome son, Doyle Saylor Sat 30 Aug 2008, 05:25 GMT

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