[Pen-l] Question on overdetermination

["Charles Brown" <charlesb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Is Marxism deterministic ?

http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/a-list/2008w34/msg00041.htm
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Subject: [A-List] Is Marxism deterministic ? 
From: "Charles Brown" 

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You may be interested in this further exchange on my article, that may
further clarify some of the arguments:
http://www.isreview.org/issues/59/letters.shtml. --PG

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Charles Brown <
charlesb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> Is Marxism deterministic?
>
>
> ISR Issue 58, March-April 2008
>
>
> CRITICAL THINKING
>
>
> Is Marxism deterministic?
>
> by Phil Gasper
>
> -clip-
>
> This was the argument of the philosopher Karl Popper, who claimed
that
> Marxism is unscientific because it "is not refutable by any
conceivable
> event."
>
> ^^^^
> CB: On this Popper ignores a very big historical fact: the
occurrence
> of the Russian Revolution and other socialist revolutions.The
> falsifiable proposition that makes Marxism scientific is : There
will
be
> socialist revolutions.
>
> If there never were socialist revolutions , Marxism would be
falsified.
> So, not only is Marxism falsifiable, refuting Popper's claims
concerning
> its  "scientific" nature, but Marxism is significantly _verified_,
i.e.
> not falsified.
>
> Marxism does _not_ claim that there cannot be counter-revolutions.
>
> According to Popper:
> In some of its earlier formulations.[the] predictions [of Marxist
> theory] were testable, and in fact falsified.
>
> ^^^^
> CB: And some Marxist proposition were testable and _verified_,
contra
> Popper, who was sitting there with the Russian Revolution right
before
> his very eyes. This suggests that Popper's activities verified
another
> minor Marxist proposition: The ruling ideas of every age are the
ideas
> of its ruling classes. Popper acted as an intellectual servant of
the
> ruling bourgeoisie in ignoring the existence of the Russian
Revolution
> in his "theory" as applied to Marxism.
>








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