Re: Re: [Pen-l] proof that everything is relative in politics

[sawicky@xxxxxxxxxxx]

To me Carter looks a lot like Clinton, maybe Obama, and Nixon looks a lot like both Bushes.

The big disconnect is Bush II rhetoric (humble foreign policy, fiscal conservatism, small

government) and actual performance.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Dassbach
Sent: 07/17/08 04:23 pm
To: Progressive Economics
Subject: Re: [Pen-l] proof that everything is relative in politics

Political spectrums are not absolute but relative. What is conservative
at one time is moderate at another. For example, what would Cater or
Nixon be considered today. BTW, Jimmie Cater represents the first step
(and Clinton, the last step) in the betrayal of the "FDR" Democrats ala
Kennedy and Johnson.


knowknot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >> from SLATE's news summary (7/17/08):
> >> The [Washington POST reports] that the White
> >> House got angry with former Attorney General John
> >> Ashcroft . . . [who successfully lobbied against
> >> appointing John Yoo as DOJ Legal counsel]. * * *
> >> The Post says this information is another example
> >> of how Ashcroft "is coming to be viewed as a voice
> >> of moderation on some of the most sensitive national
> >> security issues the nation faced after Sept. 11."
> >
> > Ashcroft a moderate ?!?
>
> I haven't read the Slate or Wash. Post piece, but did read about this
> episode in Jane Mayer's recent book -- "The Dark Side: The Inside
> Story of How The War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals"
> -- in which Mayer's take is less that Ashcroft was exhibiting
> "moderation" (whatever that means) and much more that he didn't like
> Yoo and, more importantly, that is was a turf-war issue, i.e., that
> Ashcroft didn't trust Yoo and found annoying/troubling that Yoo
> communicated/dealt directly with the White House (e.g., Addington)
> thus by-passing Ashcroft as (putatively/nominally) Yoo's boss, and
> Ashcroft didn't want that to continue.
>
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