Re: Culturnal homogenization/hybridization -- some incomplete thoughts.

[Jim Devine <jdevine03@xxxxxxxxx>]

Me:
> > Modern communications definitely plays a role in homogenization of
> > culture. BTW, homogenization goes hand-in-hand with cross-fertilization.

Doyle --
> Vastly [!!!] wrong.  Let me take two givens now; more data storage space,
> and information interactivity.

why are these "givens"?

> With more storage space then the scene can capture more than the
> moment (words spoken not recorded for re-use).  There is no reason to
> be static, and every reason to build much more large scale diversity
> of information in the culture.

I don't get this at all, Doyle. You seem to be talking about what
_should_ be. I wasn't.

> Two the backwards one-to-many culture
> is falling rapidly before interactive media and the imposition of re-
> use or copying upon the concept of intellectual property.  In a
> network re-use or copying is tantamount to a necessity.  If one
> generates mountains of unconnected data the value of re-use is made
> impossible.  As Carrol Cox often points out the more great genius
> write novels the less likely anyone will read them.  In other words
> the question of practical use of information gradually gets more and
> more important as the great libraries grow bigger.

I don't get this at all, Doyle. You seem to be talking about what
_should_ be. I wasn't.

> Concretely small languages can be captured by recording and examined
> as to their brain process differences to see how we can optimize
> language connections between people.  That is a storage issue.  And re-
> use is about someone actually using the language to communicate.

????

> Or with image making, some companies are documenting all the streets
> in the world from a ground or street view to be re-used in Google or
> Yahoo.  There is nothing to stop the public from creating vast
> graffiti like images to add to that network structure of
> civilization.  This pushes aside the reactionary one-to-many culture
> to paint diversity upon the world.  This builds a vast new culture
> unlike the one-to-many homogenous one you are complaining about.

Maybe I'm stupid or my ancient brain has finally kicked the bucket.
Could you please be more _concrete_ if you restate your argument?

me:> [It's like the creation of a hybrid crop (either in the lab or in
situ) that ] comes to dominate an ecological niche

 Doyle --
> Ecological niches are very diverse and complex.  The opposite of your
> comment.  Not just commercially but in nature.

since when did I say anything about niches being anything but diverse
and complex?

me:
> Americanized "world music" and non-US
> adaptations of US music

Doyle --
> How many times do I have to bring up one-to-many [one-too-many?] before you get it
> about that information structure?

I can't claim to read everything on pen-l. So I can't claim to
understand what you're talking about here.

--
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) --  Karl, paraphrasing Dante.