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Re: Solar grand plan?
- To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: Solar grand plan?
- From: Gar Lipow <gar.lipow@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:48:06 -0800
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On Jan 11, 2008 11:32 AM, Shane Mage <shmage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> A hydrogen-powered vehicle (car, bus, truck, dirigible, bike, ship or
> boat) is totally infrared-blocking-emission free when the hydrogen is produced
> by electrolysis driven by electricity from a wind farm. Both fuel
> cells and batteries are dynamic technologies and both will be much more economical
> than now as soon as the economies of mass production are combined with
> the improved technology. But the starting point has to be the
> investment > in wind farms, solar farms, pipelines and DC transmission lines.
Yeah but the transition is important. An electric vehicle running on
electricity from our current grid will produce fewer emissions than a
hydrogen vehicle running on hydrogen from natural gas. And an electric
vehicle running on electricity from a wind farm or solar farm will go
further on a kWh than a hydrogen car running on hydrogen from that
same kWh. That last point is important, because kWhs from wind or
solar are not free.
In terms of Doyle on Nanowires:
That is a laboratory phenomenon. They have some fundamental problems
with capacitors and conversions to solve before they can begin to look
at commercial possibilities. It is a very hopeful thing, but not
something you can put an ETA on.
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