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Re: Iraqi spy vs. spy
- To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: Iraqi spy vs. spy
- From: Leigh Meyers <the.buffalo.in.the.midst@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:23:47 -0700
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I don't discuss false-flag ops on mail lists anymore.
However, I posted this to Juan Cole's Informed Comment this morning:
Professor Cole, in regard to "(It is a ridiculous allegation, but will
be believed by the more disgruntled Shiites.)"
I understand that it is not a 'mainstream' belief to think that our
own military-based economy might have a hand in subverting any peace
process that might occur in the Middle East, but if one would note the
seamy side of Western history after WWII, there are too many
occurrences of 'false flag' operations and 'black ops', not to mention
various & sundry murderous diplomatic intrigues. Some documented...
Some not.
But I think your insinuation that believing the US has it's hands in
the mayhem occurring in Iraq is somehow mis-guided may be true, BUT IT
IS NOT 'RIDICULOUS'
Here are some researched historical details of NATO's ops in Europe
from WWII on: <http://leighm.net/?p=42> NATO's Secret Armies: False
Flags & The Strategy Of Tension - Interview With Daniele Ganser,
Professor Of Contemporary History
I would suggest that we may not find out the sordid details for a
long, long time, but to dismiss such a possibility out of hand!
On 4/15/07, Eugene Coyle <eugenecoyle@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Sounds like US intelligence conflicts. Rumsfeld's War Department off
the shelf operation was only one faction out of several.
Gene Coyle
On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
> from SLATE:
>> The Los Angeles Times goes with reports that Iraqi Sunnis have set
>> up a parallel intelligence agency within the Iraqi government to
>> counter the predominately Shiite official agency, which is
>> entirely funded by the CIA.... The LAT's piece on parallel Iraqi
>> intelligence agencies focuses as much on political maneuvering as
>> it does on ideology, since this shadow intelligence bureau was
>> born as much out of personal rivalries as political realities.
>> Sadly the tale of spy versus spy doesn't have a clear hero, as
>> both organizations appear culpable of a range of illegal activities.<
> --
> Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your
> own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
- Thread context:
- Re: criticising Arundhati Roy, (continued)
- BoRev and Simon Romero,
michael a. lebowitz Sun 15 Apr 2007, 18:29 GMT
- Iraqi spy vs. spy,
Jim Devine Sun 15 Apr 2007, 17:39 GMT
- 25 things you will hear if you try to talk about class,
Leigh Meyers Sun 15 Apr 2007, 17:39 GMT
- pocket reviews,
Jim Devine Sun 15 Apr 2007, 16:17 GMT
- Toor on Roy & Indo-chic,
Doug Henwood Sun 15 Apr 2007, 16:04 GMT
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