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Re: Zizek extols Mao (I believe...)
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- Subject: Re: Zizek extols Mao (I believe...)
- From: Ted Winslow <egwinslow@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:15:23 -0400
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Louis Proyect pointed to Zizek on Mao:
http://www.lacan.com/zizmaozedong.htm
There we find the following:
The further key point concerns the principal ASPECT of a
contradiction; for example, with regard to the contradiction
between the productive forces and the relations of production,
the productive forces, practice and the economic base generally
play the principal and decisive role; whoever denies this is not a
materialist. But it must also be admitted that in certain
conditions, such aspects as the relations of production, theory and
the superstructure in turn manifest themselves in the principal and
decisive role. When it is impossible for the productive forces to
develop without a change in the relations of production, then the
change in the relations of production plays the principal and
decisive role.
The political stakes of this debate are decisive: Mao's aim is to
assert the key role, in the political struggle, of what the Marxist
tradition usually refers to as the "subjective factor" - theory,
superstructure. This is what, according to Mao, Stalin neglected:
"Stalin's Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR from first to
last says nothing about the superstructure. It is not concerned
with people; it considers things, not people. /.../ /It speaks/
only of the production relations, not of the superstructure nor
politics, nor the role of the people. Communism cannot be reached
unless there is a communist movement."
This misinterprets Marx. Forces and relations of production are
"subjective." They express the degree of development of human
"subjectivity," the degree of "development of the human mind."
“accumulation is nothing but the amassing of the productive powers of
social labour, so that the accumulation of the skill and knowledge
(scientific power) of the workers themselves is the chief form of
accumulation, and infinitely more important than the accumulation -
which goes hand in hand with it and merely represents it - of the
existing objective conditions of this accumulated activity. These
objective conditions are only nominally accumulated and must be
constantly produced anew and consumed anew.”
<http://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-
surplus-value/ch21.htm>
Marx opposes this “idealism” to “the crude, material fetishism into
which the Ricardian theory develops in the writings ‘of this
incredible cobbler’, McCulloch” and to the mistaken interpretations
of his own “materialism” such as Mao's and Zizek's.
"The whole objective world, the 'world of commodities', vanishes here
as a mere aspect, as the merely passing activity, constantly
performed anew, of socially producing men. Compare this 'idealism'
with the crude, material fetishism into which the Ricardian theory
develops in the writings 'of this incredible cobbler', McCulloch,
where not only the difference between man and animal disappears but
even the difference between a living organism and an inanimate
object. And then let them say that as against the lofty idealism of
bourgeois political economy, the proletarian opposition has been
preaching a crude materialism directed exclusively towards the
satisfaction of coarse appetites."
<http://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-
surplus-value/ch21.htm>
"Nature builds no machines, no locomotives, railways, electric
telegraphs, self-acting mules etc. These are products of human
industry; natural material transformed into organs of the human will
over nature, or of human participation in nature. They are organs of
the human brain, created by the human hand; the power of knowledge,
objectified. The development of fixed capital indicates to what
degree general social knowledge has become a direct force of
production, and to what degree, hence, the conditions of the process
of social life itself have come under the control of the general
intellect and been transformed in accordance with it. To what degree
the powers of social production have been produced, not only in the
form of knowledge, but also as immediate organs of social practice,
of the real life process."
http://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1857/grundrisse/
ch14.htm
The related failure to perceive relations of production as
"subjective," i.e. as the creation of human subjects and, hence, as
alterable by them, is another key expression of "fetishism."
Marx conceives the labour process as developmental of human mind and,
hence, successive forms of this process as internally related stages
in an historical process of "education."
Conceived in this way, the development of "forces of production"
within a stage comes into contradiction with the "relations of
production" that define that stage because those relations ultimately
"fetter" this development. The development of mind expressed by the
development of these forces, however, creates a "subjectivity" with
the power to transform these relations in a positive way i.e. with
the power to create new relations more compatible with individual
development.
Ted
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