my idiological side please forgive my utopia.
yes they chaos goes hand in hand with control. no one would have ever thought that chaos would not ensue or proabably only on the island of north anmerica where people live under the influemce of fox and cnn
----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Devine <jdevine03@xxxxxxxxx>
To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 5:40:40 PM
Subject: Re: Beyond Quagmire
On 3/16/07, soula avramidis <soulaavramidis2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> there is quite a difference bwteen analytical rationality what elites debate
> and waht happens on the ground. the same could be said for any other
> american war. one is not to confuse or conflate the views of the few and
> juxtapose those to the way a process eveolves.
Right.
> in the case of iraq and nam
> and korea wars redressed balance of forces disequilibria in a continum
> called histroty in which the grave diggers of impeiralism need just a little
> nudge to get their act into shape to bring the whole edifice of capitalism
> down. a sytem that since 1929 been living on borrowed time.
capitalism is on the verge of collapse, living on borrowed time???
that's news to me. Even if we have a replay of the 1930s on a world
scale, capitalism won't permanently collapse until there is a
world-wide mass
movement ready to replace capitalism with something
else. We don't even have "actually-existing socialism" any more
(except in two small countries).
> the invasion of
> iraq was contemnpplated by american circles early in the cold war. even
> Chirchil said of iraq and i paraphrase "it is a great catch where there
> plaisn to rasie livestock.. oil" if it was not for the soviet union iraq
> would have styaed an anglo american colony.
sure, the Anglo-American elites want to dominate the world. But did
they want the chaos now seen in Iraq?
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Jim Devine / "The truth is more important than the facts." -- Frank Lloyd Wright