Re: Success in failure

[Jim Devine <jdevine03@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ken Hanly wrote:
> >The apparent failure of attempts by terrorists to blow
> >up a number of planes bound for the US...

On 8/10/06, Shane Mage <shmage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> What failure?  Ever since the *first* WTC "plot" (and indeed before...)
> every secret-police-manipulated "terrorist conspiracy" has succeeded
> splendidly ( well, Madrid was only a partial success, thanks to the
> stupidity of Aznar) in its purpose of terrorizing the populace into
> submission before the fascistic assault on the remaining shreds
> of Western bourgeois democracy.

why does the power elite _need_ fascism? they seem to be doing pretty
well already.

Italy brought in fascism in response to mass anti-capitalist labor
movements, while the story of other fascisms is similar, bringing in
different degrees of social disintegration as part of the explanation.
The US lacks a true labor movement, anti-capitalist or otherwise,
while the kind of social disintegration it has involves an atomized
population, which serves the needs of the ruling elite quite well,
thank you.

as far as I know, the elite doesn't _create_ these bomb plots (at
least not directly or on purpose).  Instead it _exploits_ them for its
own purposes. (Did Clinton plot to have the USS Cole bombed?) The
higher the alert level, for example, the more cronies can get away
with stealing tax-payers' money.

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