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More Godel
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- Subject: More Godel
- From: Charles Brown <cbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:29:17 -0500
- Comments: To: Forum for the discussion of theoretical issues raised by Karl Marx and the thinkers he inspired <marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu>
- Thread-index: AcUrBhTqJ1+74mwnQaGL7cWXBcSKyA==
Michael Perelman:
Mirowski says that Godel's proof rattled both Turing & Van Neuman,
making them turn from formalizing to matters such as game theory &
computers.
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CB: As Carlos on Marxmail suggested might be pertinent to this:
"The question whether objective truth can be attributed to human thinking is
not a question of theory but is a practical question. Man must prove the
truth, i.e., the reality and power, the this-sidedness [Diesseitigkeit] of
his thinking, in practice. The dispute over the reality or non-reality of
thinking which is isolated from practice is a purely scholastic question."
2nd Thesis on Feuerbach
Carlos said over there on Marxmail:
>
> "... Godel, in this paper which established his two great theorems by
> methods which are constructive in a precise sense, on the one hand
> showed the essential limitations imposed upon constructivist formal
> systems (which include all systems basing a calculus for arithmetic upon
> "mathematical induction"), and on the other hand displayed the power of
> constructivist methods for establishing metamathematical truths."
Carlos: Behind the jargon, isn't this Thesis II?
- Thread context:
- More Godel,
michael perelman Thu 17 Mar 2005, 02:29 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- More Godel,
Charles Brown Thu 17 Mar 2005, 15:29 GMT
- Jamie Galbraith's frustration with Greenspan boils over...,
Devine, James Wed 16 Mar 2005, 16:49 GMT
- Gary Webb,
Devine, James Wed 16 Mar 2005, 16:41 GMT
- Wolfowitz/World Bank,
Thomas Lepeardo Wed 16 Mar 2005, 16:21 GMT
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