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Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece
- To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece
- From: "Craven, Jim" <JCraven@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:41:30 -0700
- Thread-index: AcRuxnPdE3Y0CMR2RyqCXKfxMUWZGwADH3vA
- Thread-topic: [PEN-L] Thomas Frank op-ed piece
In fairness, Kerry has never denied having blood on his hands and has
done more than most (indeed, has built his political career on it) to
bring the facts about what US soldiers did in Vietnam into the public
eye.
dd
Response Jim C: Then why the ads celebrating his Vietnam "service"? Why
the ads noting that he chose to "serve his country" by going to Vietnam?
Why the celebrations of his medals that many sought to throw away out of
shame when they came home--myself included? Why was he in VVAW only on
the periphery breaking with the organization after a relatively short
time in it? Why the references to how many times he was wounded and no
reference to how many he wounded and killed? Why the continual reference
to "honorable service" in Vietnam and how do you "honorably serve" in an
imperialist and genocidal war?
And here we got a bunch of fucking liberals on Air America, who
themselves never "served" in the military, now celebrating Kerry's
military service and attacking Bush for being a chickenhawk (which he
was) but tacitly promoting the justness and correctness--and even
"patriotism" of Kerry having "served" in Vietnam. You cannot have it
both ways: the anti-War movement was correct yet we must "honor" those
who "served" in Vietnam. Bullshit. If the anti-War movement was correct,
then we should honor those who refused to serve (for whatever reason)
with the exception of those chickenhawks who actively supported the War
while ducking out of it.
Again the right-wing is driving the agenda and the liberals are just
reacting to it tryiing to win debating points.
That asshole David Horowitz (who in my opinion was never a real leftist
ever), who is now a close advisor to Bush.
came up with a twist on Von Clausewitz: "Politics is war by other means"
instead of "war is the continuation of politics by other means" is
correct about one thing when he says that the point is winning and
crushing/exterminating the hard-core opposition and not debating or
winning in terms of debating points.
Jim C.
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- Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece, (continued)
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