Re: Putin

[Chris Doss <lookoverhere1@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, and they seem to go to pretty bizarre lengths to justify it too. For instance, they view I have heard of Chechnya expressed here implies that, just a few short years after the collapse of the atheistic Soviet Union, large numbers of ex-Soviets want to under Shariah law. 80% of the population of Dagestan views Brezhnev-era really existing socialism as the ideal form of social organization. They do not want to live under Shariah.

 

I have never seen so much pulling rabbits out of hats in a long time: "Chechnya never attacked Dagestan, wait, no, it did, but it was only after Russia attacked Chechnya, wait, no, that's not it either, it happened before, but the Dagestanis really liked it, wait, no (logical next step), the Dagestanis were against it, but they are Quislings, whatever I can come up with to justify my worldview."

Doug Henwood <dhenwood@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Chris Doss quoted Anatol Lieven:
>
> >Yet the bitterly anti-Western ideology
>
> These days, that sort of bitter ideology passes for anti-imperialism
> in some circles. If it had been the Red Army killing Chechen rebels,
> that would have been fine. But now Putin's Russia has gone over to
> the dark side, so anyone against Putin is against imperialism. Ditto
> the broader radical Islamic movement. Ditto Milosevic. Oddly enough,
> these arguments are made in the name of Marxism, which reminds me of
> the Randy Newman lines: "If Marx were living today/he'd be rolling
> around in his grave..."
>
> Doug

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