Re: More on LNG

[Mike Ballard <swillsqueal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

--- Grant Lee <grantlee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> We must have that beer some time soon.

Perhaps Tuesday.


>
> > Is LNG the same as what's being promoted in
> Australia
> > as LPG?  So as when "we" run low on petrol (peak
> oil),
> > "we" can sell zeez nice carbon based stuff for the
> > burning.  In Australia, most petrol stations
> already
> > sell "LPG" or as it is known, "auto gas".  To use
> it,
> > one needs to refit one's engine.  The advantage is
> > that it costs half what petrol costs.
>
> The short answer is that they are both petroleum
> products, and are both
> based on butane and/or propane, along with various
> other components.

So, global warming continues apace even by using
these.  Perhaps peek oil becomes less of the problem
though.


> Natural gas is "natural" because it more or less
> comes straight out of the
> ground; it's the stuff piped huge distances from
> gasfields and used in our
> homes. (Before large quantities of natural gas were
> found, coal gas [a.k.a
> "town gas"], produced by warming coal just below
> burning temperature and
> capturing the emissions, was the reticulated gas
> used for domestic purposes,
> 19th C. street lighting etc.)

That's all news to me.  I wondered about the old gas
lighting.  They still had some of those gas lamps at
Vesuvio, a pub I drank at in SF, right next to City
Lights Bookstore.


> LPG is a more recent and more volatile product of
> refining, designed as an
> internal combustion fuel, like diesel,
> petrol/gasoline, avgas, kerosene,
> paraffin, etc.

Do people here get their car engines modified to burn
it or do these engines have to be purchased from the
get go?


> Both natural gas and refined petroleum gas liquefy
> when chilled, hence LNG
> and LPG. (As you probably know, most taxis in
> Australia run on LPG; when I
> was a cab driver there were some wild stories,
> probably urban legends, about
> the properties of super-chilled LPG, but I digress
> :-)

Some Croatian guy put out a Taxis of Perth story book
some time ago.  Maybe you knew him.  His mug shot is
in the "WA" from this Saturday's lit section.


> And just to confuse you further, a handful of
> vehicles here have been
> adapted to run on LNG, although this does not seem
> to have been a huge
> success and I suspect that its lower volatility is a
> problem.
>
> regards,
>
> Grant
Thanks!!!

Mike B)

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