Re: Ceaucescu and Romanian transition

[Michael Perelman <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Wasn't he a Ph.D. mathematician also?


On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 08:40:21PM +0300, "Chris Doss"  wrote:
> Yes, this goes for Russia as well. Berezovsky sold used cars. Actually all the oligarchs with a few exceptions (e.g. Khodorkovsky) were lumpens, nobodies.
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> From: "Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx>
> To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 09:38:18 -0800
> Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Ceaucescu and Romanian transition
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> > I don't know much about Eastern Europe, but it seems to me that many of the rising class of capitalists (and capitalist politicians) there also were "entrepreneurs" in the illegal markets. I would guess that in Poland, some of them were corrupt unionists from Solidarnosc.
> > Jim Devine
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> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From: "Chris Doss" [mailto:nomorebounces@xxxxxxx]
> >       Sent: Sat 3/6/2004 9:27 AM
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> >       Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Ceaucescu and Romanian transition
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> >       Well, yeah, but I was just trying to say that the only people who had any experience with administration in e.g. Poland were former Communists, for obvious reasons. People running around publishing samizdat aren't usually experts on city planning.
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> >       Russia's a big exception to this.
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> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From: "Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx>
> >       To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >       Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:41:05 -0800
> >       Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Ceaucescu and Romanian transition
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> >       > of course, back when they ran "communist countries," they tried to make sure that no-one else _could_ govern unless they'd already proved their loyalty...
> >       > Jim D.
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> >       >       -----Original Message-----
> >       >       From: "Chris Doss" [mailto:nomorebounces@xxxxxxx]
> >       >       Sent: Sat 3/6/2004 3:04 AM
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> >       >       I don't know about the Romanian situation in particular, but one reason why former "Communist" leaders are in power thruought EE is that they are the only ones with experience in actually running a country.
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> >       >       -----Original Message-----
> >       >       From: "Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx>
> >       >       To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >       >       Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:46:35 -0800
> >       >       Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Ceaucescu and Romanian transition
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> >       >       > given how bad the Rumanian government was before Ceaucescu was overthrown, I find the view presented by NPR poet-commentator to be a bit more plausible: the same thugs that ruled before the "revolution" ended up in power afterwards (with the notable exception of Ceaucescu and his family).
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