Re: Antisemism and the Us Left/(Was Zionists & American Blacks)

["Max B. Sawicky" <sawicky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree Palestinians have zero connection to the Euro holocaust and
world anti-semitism that supports the case for Jewish national
liberation, such as it is.  In this sense the Jewish claim to
Palestine is unfounded.  But that would be true of most
any area outside of Europe, and Jews never considered a claim
to a homeland inside of Europe for obvious reasons.  They
had one and were massacred.

Yoshie is right in the narrow context of the current Israeli
land holdings, where jews are clearly oppressors and Palestinians
the oppressed, but wrong in the broader context of world
Jewish existence since 1800.

I think the fundamental problem here is that we try to fit the ME
into categories that point to some kind of political or ethical solution,
whereas the actual situation admits of no solution without a very
different international political setting.  You can't fix it.

mbs



> Naturally there is quite a difference between
> reparations and a law of return which by its very
> nature imposes costs on the Palestinian people which
> bears no responsability, not even vicariously through
> past generations in that place. Reparations are at
> least somewhat tied to the agents and beneficiaries of
> the injustice, are they not?
>
> David
>
> --- "Max B. Sawicky" <sawicky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Ditto.  A law of return has the same logic as the
> > reparations movement.  Naturally, in that ideal
> sense a law of return for Palestinians follows as well.
>
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