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Re: [Marxism] David Harvey: it's about a New Deal
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- Subject: Re: [Marxism] David Harvey: it's about a New Deal
- From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:34:31 -0500
- Comments: To: Marxmail List <marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu>
David Harvey:
The danger is that anti-imperialist
movements may become purely and wholeheartedly anti-modernist movements
rather than seeking an alternative globalization and an alternative
modernity that makes full use of the potential that capitalism has spawned.
I wish I knew what this meant. If this means that Islamic radicalism
represents a "danger", I can't agree. Anti-colonial movements have often
had questionable leaderships, going back to the Boxer rebellion--one of the
most explicitly "anti-modernist" movements of all time. That is no excuse
for opposing them.
In my own view, there is only one way in which capitalism can steady itself
temporarily and draw back from a series of increasingly violent
inter-imperialist confrontations, and that is through the orchestration of
some sort of global "new" New Deal.
I am disappointed that David Harvey believes that a global New Deal would
accomplish anything. It didn't the first time around. WWII lifted the USA
out of the depression, not deficit spending.
For people on the left,
the question is whether we would be prepared to support such a move (much as
happened in leftist support for social democracy and new deal politics in
earlier times) or to go against it as "mere reformism."
This is not a very dialectical approach coming from perhaps the most
respected Marxist intellectual on the planet today. During the 1930s
revolutionaries supported specific New Deal legislation, such as Section 7a
of NIRA (National Industrial Recovery Act) which gave workers the right of
collective bargaining. The other approach was that of the CPUSA which was
to act as the uncritical leftwing of the New Deal.
I am inclined to
support it (much as I support, albeit with reservations, what Luis Inacio
Lula da Silva is doing in Brazil) as a temporary respite and as a breathing
space within which to try to construct a more radical alternative.
A better approach would be to support particular initiatives of Lula (such
as they are) and maintain political independence. This business about a
"temporary respite" sounds too much like the pleading for a Dean presidency.
Otherwise, I fear a catastrophic beginning to the twenty-first century that
will bring death and mayhem to even more of the world's population than is
now afflicted. The mass consequences of a capitalist collapse would be far
more catastrophic now than in the past simply because of the way so much of
the world's population is now integrated into, and therefore in some sense
crucially dependent upon, the functioning of the world market. It was for
this reason that I argued for a new New Deal in The New Imperialism.
This is not a very good understanding of the inner laws of capitalism from
one of its most renowned theorists. Capitalist collapse cannot be prevented
by New Deal legislation. The "second depression" of 1937 could not be
forestalled by any legislation.
A. This question concerns, in very general terms, the issue of alliances
that can be pinned together to realize reformist political goals. This is a
tactical question in which all manner of oppositional forces, including
dissident voices (like those of George Soros, Paul Krugman or Joseph
Stieglitz -- if they really mean what they say) within the dominant classes,
have a potential role to play. My own view is that we should have one foot
firmly implanted within those conventional political movements that are
prepared to take up the cause of reform and one foot implanted in the
radical movements seeking more revolutionary solutions.
In other words, anybody but Bush. I wish that Harvey had the guts to state
this explicitly rather than blather on about "dominant classes".
Louis Proyect, Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org
- Thread context:
- Thwarting Democracy in Iran and Guatemala,
Yoshie Furuhashi Sun 30 Nov 2003, 14:33 GMT
- David Harvey: it's about a New Deal,
Jurriaan Bendien Sun 30 Nov 2003, 11:40 GMT
- Juan Cole: more than 2 dead a day this month,
Michael Pollak Sun 30 Nov 2003, 10:47 GMT
- Goolsbee: Disability distorts unemployment stats,
Michael Pollak Sun 30 Nov 2003, 09:04 GMT
- The Iraqi councils,
Michael Pollak Sun 30 Nov 2003, 08:58 GMT
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