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Re: Europe's cheap US labor
--- Jurriaan Bendien <bendien@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
But I think there is often
> more "rhetoric" about > resistance than "real
resistance". At stake in this > "anti-globalisation"
> debate is arguing effectively for socialist
> alternatives and whether you can > pick a fight you
can win, and that really changes > things, that
achieve
> social progress. And I have strong doubts about
> that.
Capital rules the world. That's what globalization
means to me. Anti-globalization is the resistance to
that rule, an attempt to get the rules written in ways
which are more attuned to the environment, including
the people. My preference is for this resistance to
become class conscious, acting from its own interests
and not merely making moral arguments in public. I
want this movement (just like I wanted the
anti-Vietnam War movement) to realize that the
poverty, pollution and lack of grassroots decision
making in general are systemic problems tied to the
social relations of Capital. To the degree that I
can, I try to push the debate in that direction.
As for achieving things past playing the public
relations game to influence politicians via
demonstations, I think that workers need to organize
classwide unions which have the strategic goal of
taking, holding and operating the means of production
and the tactical goal of getting what we can with what
power we can muster at the moment.
> > Not people who understand that borders are really
> just
> > another expression of private property and class
> rule.
>
> Well I could give you some really funny anecdotes
> about that, but I won't do
> that. Let's just say that for the purpose of
> defining insiders and
> outsiders, private property and class rule may be
> irrelevant to that, but
> that "borders" are not abolished thereby at all.
Are you saying that national borders would still be
relevant in classless societies, Jurriaan?
> > I agree. As the social product of the workers
> gets
> > further from their ownership and control, so
> > alienation of all classes from each other and from
> > themselves as human beings will grow.
>
> For me the ghettoisation trend involves much more,
> and because it is ceteris
> paribus the longterm tendency, the
> "anti-globalisation" rhetoric is doubly
> ridiculous. Like I said, they should join the flat
> earth society.
>
Agreed. Unless we organize as producers to resist
immerseration with the goal of transcending Capital,
we will remain in a kind of consumerist thrall,
perhaps looking for our fates in astrological signs.
communist greetings,
Mike B)
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?My other piece of advice, Copperfield,?
said Mr. Micawber, ?you know. Annual income
twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen and
six, result happiness. Annual income twenty
pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds
ought and six, result misery. The blossom is
blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day
goes down upon the dreary scene,
and ? and in short you are for ever floored. As I am!?
Charles Dickens' DAVID COPPERFIELD
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- Thread context:
- Re: Europe's cheap US labor, (continued)
- Malthus/Thanksgiving,
Louis Proyect Thu 27 Nov 2003, 23:13 GMT
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