Re: the next wedge issue

[ravi <gadfly@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Waistline2@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Further, with the acceptance of homosexuality in society a number of
> social issue arise... <...> I teach them that homosexuality is
> primarily - not exclusively, learned behavior. <...> I maintain that
> at this juncture of history homosexuality is propagated by the
> bourgeois and part of the decay and degeneracy in society. <...> We
> can pretend that there is no connection between rape and sexual abuse
> of children and homosexuality but the fact speak of a different
> logic. I am no expert at anything but have interviewed close to a
> thousand men - my wife perhaps ten thousand people, and homosexuality
> amongst the people interview in connected with some form of sex abuse
> as a child in at least 80% of the cases. <...> Homosexuality and its
> growth in our very real society expresses the decay of bourgeois
> property. <...> I abhor homosexuality...
>

i have snipped out all the hand-waving (why, some of my best friends are
gay! in fact some of them hit on me!) arguments. i want to hear the
factual basis (outside of the anecdotal evidence that is given) of the
far-reaching statements made above. i want further elucidation of the
inferences drawn: for instance, what were these interviews? what were
the variables considered for correlation? what levels of heterosexual
behaviour was/is "connected" to sex abuse? what is the causal
underpinning of the "observed" correlation between homosexuality and
child abuse? what is the biological basis of the "learned behaviour"
theory. if there is one, does that exclude "heterosexual behaviour"?
claims of the decay and degeneracy of society beg the question.
establish first that such decay is happening.

is [reduction to] marxist or property/class relations the axiomatic
system of this list? if it is, then i question such a system of logic.
if not, then be sure that the proofs requested are derived from more
self-evident axioms.

if you cannot, at least refrain from using phrases such as "the facts
speak of a different logic", for you have presented neither fact nor
logic, thus far.

        --ravi