Re: Dysentery

[andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ahem. Real liberals (in America) are card-carrying
members of the ACLU like me who stand foresquare for
the Rights of Man, the Bill of Rights, due process,
equal protection, and against torture -- come what
may. Levinson, who has made a name for himself as a 2d
Amendment (gun rights) scholar, is no liberal and has
not been for 20 years. Dershowitz is of course a
Zionist, which sort of makes inroads into liberalism,
since you have to defend the opposite when Israel does
it. jks

--- Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >You've lost me Louis, are you arguing for the
> necessity of torture?
> >
> >Joanna
>
> No, Dissent Magazine is. Sanford Levinson basically
> wrote a defense of Alan
> Dershowitz there using formulations that were a bit
> less crude. If you
> watch Dershowitz's debate with Norman Finkelstein,
> you'll see a bit of
> casuistry around the acceptability of "soft torture"
> like keeping depriving
> people of sleep, etc. This is the sinkhole of social
> democracy and
> liberalism that some on the left are trying to
> accomodate themselves to. I
> am afraid that American fascism will not come in
> jackboots but in Birkenstocks.
>
>
>
> Louis Proyect, Marxism mailing list:
http://www.marxmail.org


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