Re: The Road to Serfdom

["Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx>]

this is a good post, because it's specific in its critique. This is something that might be answered, though I doubt anyone's interested in doing so.
Jim

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Mike Ballard [mailto:swillsqueal@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
	Sent: Sat 8/9/2003 10:52 PM 
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	Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom
	
	

	--- andie nachgeborenen
	<andie_nachgeborenen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
	> --- "Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx> wrote:
	> > JKS refers to > the well worn territory of how
	> > markets are BAD<
	> >
	> > actually, my understanding is that (except for
	> Mike
	> > B), the main trend of the anti-"market socialism"
	> > side was not  that markets are "BAD." (Could you
	> > name someone who says that markets are evil?)
	>
	> Right here, right now, Mike Ballard.
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	Hi Jim and Andie,
	
	Just to be clear and without religious overtone: I
	don't think that markets are evil.  I think that we
	need to realize that we (who are not capitalists) are
	the market and the producers.
	
	I think that exchange-value needs to be stripped away
	from use-value and disgarded.  I think that it has now
	been historically demonstrated that commodity
	production/consumption undermines any attempt to
	achieve socialism.  I think that wage-labour has
	outlived its usefulness for humankind.  I think that
	commodity production is inherently alienating, always
	leading away from social ownership of the means of
	production, self-management and towards the
	continuation of hierarchical-political power over the
	producers.
	
	Best,
	Mike B)
	
	
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