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Re: China
I wanted to change the subject/thread from markets to China. As far as
I can tell China is increasingly gaining attention as the one major
economic development success story, and from the right and from the
left. And I wanted to get Pen thoughts about how best to understand
what is happening there and how we should respond.
First to provide some setting from my own perspective:
In the early 1990s, largely because of the collapse of the Soviet Union
and the shift of Russia and other Eastern/Central European countries to
capitalism, China became the country that many looked towards to uphold
the banner of socialist economic possibilities. At the time, it was
moving towards some proclaimed form of market socialism, having taken a
position that the state sector would remain strong but that growth
would be encouraged through non-state enterprises. A leading growth
sector was township and village enterprises, that were considered
collective enterprises, and which were based on the dissolved
communes. And according to state objectives more and more of the
direction of economic activity was being handled by market forces and
encouraged by the profit motive.
Many on the left at the time hoped that China had pioneered some new
path towards a more democratic, decentralized, and efficient form of
non-capitalist production. Even Cuba began to look closely at the
Chinese experience. In fact, I was at a conference in May in Havana
where it was clear that a number of Cuban economists still look towards
China as a model, now because of its ability to export increasing
advanced manufactures.
After the east asian crisis of 1997-98, a whole new group of
progressives began to embrace China. This was because many
progressives had previously endorsed the East Asian state capitalist
model as an alternative to neoliberalism and were devastated by the
crisis and the movement of many of the crisis impacted countries, such
as South Korea, to adopt neoliberalism. China became the hero in that
it had not liberalized as much as the other east asian countries and
had survived the crisis and then accelerated its growth. So, the
progressive competitiveness crowd began shifting its attention to China.
Significantly, China has moved increasingly to a capitalist based
economy that is more and more dominated by foreign directed production
for export. The government no longer even speaks of promoting a market
socialist system but now a market system. And it increasingly is
celebrated for its ability to attract foreign investment and export.
This is why the right has also come to celebrate China.
So, some questions: in what sense does the post-1978 Chinese move from
planning to market, from state to private, from domestic enterprise to
foreign, and from domestic production to export, represent a failure
for market socialism as a theory and alternative from of social
organization. In other words does the Chinese experience prove that it
is an unstable set of relations?
And what does it mean that those on the left who celebrate China are
celebrating an export led growth model. I would think that an export-
led growth model, as opposed to exporting, would be the last framework
that progressives would want to encourage.
It seems to me that when progressives celebrate China?s recent growth
it blinds them, among other things, to the notion of combined and
uneven development, which more concretely means that that its success
cannot be understood separately from the growing tensions and
deindustrialization in Mexico and in East Asia in countries like South
Korea and Malaysia and Singapore. Does this political blindness
highlight the decline in our theoretical understandings of capitalism
as a system?
Then of course there is the growing tendency for the governments and
workers in the U.S. and Japan to argue that it is China that is
undermining their respective economies when it is largely transnational
corporations from their countries that are organizing the export
production from China. Are these governments just playing a game to
divide workers or is more at work?
Any thoughts on these or related questions would be greatly appreciated.
Marty Hart-Landsberg
- Thread context:
- Re: The Road to Serfdom, (continued)
- Re: The Road to Serfdom,
Michael Perelman Sat 09 Aug 2003, 16:11 GMT
- Re: The Road to Serfdom,
andie nachgeborenen Sat 09 Aug 2003, 16:18 GMT
- Re: The Road to Serfdom,
Max B. Sawicky Sat 09 Aug 2003, 17:52 GMT
- Re: China,
Martin Hart-Landsberg Sat 09 Aug 2003, 18:17 GMT
- Re: China,
michael Sat 09 Aug 2003, 18:58 GMT
- Re: China,
Eubulides Sat 09 Aug 2003, 19:09 GMT
- Re: China,
Michael Perelman Sat 09 Aug 2003, 19:21 GMT
- Re: The Road to Serfdom,
Sabri Oncu Sat 09 Aug 2003, 15:17 GMT
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