Re: Ape diets...

[Jurriaan Bendien <bendien@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Very wise ! Don't think we have had a point of genuine disagreement yet,
except you're older and more streetwise than me, I don't underestimate you
at all. This is what I like best about the more intelligent anarchists;
their ability to transcend theoretical disputes and return us to the basics
of life, what is really important in human life, never mind the intellectual
contortions and the bullshit. My own position at present is very consistent,
and very logical. I am not having sex with any indigenous (so-called
autochtone) Dutch person ever again. Furthermore, I reject the entire
bourgeois understanding of human sexual development utterly and completely
as unscientific and unobjective, plus, it totally wrecked my life and
prevented me from being more productive. Basically, I'd prefer to live in
the UK, North America or Australia, as I might be able to get some real work
done there rather than pick my nose in Amsterdam (or else Brazil or Cuba or
South Africa, as people there still seem to have some humanity in the sense
that I am able to understand it; but I speak neither Portuguese nor Spanish,
that takes 1.5 years to master, assuming reasonable pedagogy, and I function
better at moderate temperatures). I am still very keen to go to Havana and
elsewhere in Cuba as well. The ideologues always seek to portray Castro as a
ruthless dictator, but this is rubbish, that is not the problem at all. The
ideologues are unable to conceptualise what, objectively, the problems
really are in relation to Cuba, we are just continually confronted with a
pack of lies. But that aside, Cuba is an attractive country from my point of
view, aesthetically, and from the point of view of human values which are
conducive to human survival.

Regards

Jurriaan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ballard" <swillsqueal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Ape diets...


> Hi Jurriaan,
>
> When I was a kid in the 50s, somebody was selling
> chocolate covered ants at the farmers' market in Los
> Angeles.  Never ate them myself.
>
> As for those meek rats and roaches inheriting the
> Earth, yes quite possible, as long as most humans
> persist in fetishizing commodity production.
>
> Hi-ho,
> Mike B)
> --- Jurriaan Bendien <bendien@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Great you're back again. I don't think that Jim
> > should eat insects. But look
> > at it this way, if present trends continue, then
> > within a few hundred years
> > there might be little else to eat. A Toronto
> > research institute did research
> > on this, and found that if you fry them properly,
> > certain insects can
> > provide a quite acceptable dish, rich in proteins.
> > This was wellknown among
> > New Zealand Maoris, whom I have seen eating huhu
> > grubs raw and roasted.
> > Other research suggests that rats and cockroaches
> > could inherit the earth,
> > they can withstand even the impact of nuclear
> > warfare...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Ballard" <swillsqueal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Ape diets...
> >
> >
> > > Just groom her nicely, Jim and remember the
> > difference
> > > between flora and fauna.
> > >
> > > Mike B)
> > > --- "Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > so does this mean I have to EAT the lice I pick
> > off
> > > > my wife?
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >       -----Original Message-----
> > > >       From: Mike Ballard
> > > > [mailto:swillsqueal@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >       Sent: Wed 7/23/2003 5:52 AM
> > > >       To: PEN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >       Cc:
> > > >       Subject: [PEN-L] Ape diets...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       Long life and prosper...
> > > >
> > > >       Mike B)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       'Ape diet' lowers bad cholesterol levels
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       21:00 22 July 03
> > > >       Shaoni Bhattacharya
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       A vegetarian "ape-diet", based on the
> > foods our
> > > > simian
> > > >       cousins eat, is as effective in lowering
> > > > cholesterol
> > > >       as an established cholesterol-lowering
> > drug,
> > > > reveals a
> > > >       new study. High cholesterol levels
> > increase the
> > > > risk
> > > >       of cardiovascular disease.
> > > >
> > > >       The key components of the ape diet are
> > plant
> > > > sterols,
> > > >       found in plant oils and enriched
> > margarines,
> > > > viscous
> > > >       fibre, found in oats, barley and
> > aubergine, and soy
> > > >       protein and nuts.
> > > >
> > > >       People with raised cholesterol following
> > this
> > > >       primitive diet had their levels of bad
> > cholesterol
> > > >       slashed by about a third - the same
> > reduction
> > > > provided
> > > >       by the statin drug, lovastatin.
> > > >
> > > >       Study leader David Jenkins, a vascular
> > biologist at
> > > >       the University of Toronto, says these
> > foods are
> > > >       accepted to have cholesterol-lowering
> > properties.
> > > > "The
> > > >       thing we did was to put them all together
> > and see
> > > > that
> > > >       they didn't cancel out but actually added
> > up," he
> > > > told
> > > >       New Scientist.
> > > >
> > > >       He believes that humans may be
> > evolutionarily
> > > > adapted
> > > >       to the diet, which is similar to that
> > eaten by
> > > >       gorillas and orangutans.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       Tofu bake
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       Jenkins and colleagues assigned 46
> > patients to
> > > > either
> > > >       the special ape diet, a standard
> > > > cholesterol-lowering
> > > >       diet or the standard diet plus lovastatin.
> > > >
> > > >       A typical dinner from the ape menu would
> > be tofu
> > > > bake
> > > >       with ratatouille of aubergine, onions and
> > sweet
> > > >       peppers, with pearled barley and vegetable
> > side
> > > >       dishes, says the team.
> > > >
> > > >       After four-weeks, levels of the harmful
> > > >       LDL-cholesterol plummeted by 29 per cent
> > on the ape
> > > >       diet, and 31 per cent for those on
> > lovastatin. Bad
> > > >       cholesterol fell by only 8 per cent for
> > those on
> > > > the
> > > >       standard low-fat diet.
> > > >
> > > >       Jenkins points out many people with raised
> > > > cholesterol
> > > >       are being put on medication before they
> > give diet a
> > > >       chance. "Although many drugs are extremely
> > safe,
> > > >       there's always a slight chance of risk of
> > the drug
> > > > and
> > > >       drug interactions," he says.
> > > >
> > > >       Lovastatin has an "excellent" safety
> > profile, but
> > > > the
> > > >       drug can cause liver or muscle enzyme
> > problems in a
> > > >       small minority of people.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       Filet mignon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       The drug is reasonably cheap now it has
> > come off
> > > >       patent, says Jenkins. But the cost of the
> > ape-diet
> > > >       will depend on people's individual tastes.
> > It might
> > > >       seem dear to those who like fast food.
> > "But if you
> > > >       like filet mignon and West Coast salmon
> > then this
> > > > is
> > > >       not going to be more expensive - it's
> > going to be
> > > >       cheaper," he says.
> > > >
> > > >       The patients generally found the ape diet
> > > > acceptable,
> > > >       with the main complaint being the large
> > quantity of
> > > >       food that had to be eaten in order not to
> > lose
> > > > weight.
> > > >
> > > >       However, the British Heart Foundation
> > says: "There
> > > > is
> > > >       a wealth of evidence to suggest that
> > statins are
> > > >       superior to diet in lowering cholesterol
> > levels."
> > > > The
> > > >       BHF also points out "this is a small
> > short-term
> > > > study
> > > >       supported by numerous food manufacturers,
> > which may
> > > >       have influenced the findings".
> > > >
> > > >       Nonetheless, the BHF acknowledges that
> > diet is
> > > >       important: "Statins should always
> > complement a
> > > > healthy
> > > >       balanced diet, rather than replace it."
> > > >
> > > >       Journal reference: Journal of the American
> > Medical
> > > >       Association: (vol 290, p 502)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       21:00 22 July 03
> > > >
> > > >       Return to news story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        © Copyright Reed Business Information
> > Ltd.
> > > >
> > > >
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