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[PEN-L:33680] Re: Weinstein on Lipset & Marks/Why Socialism Failed in US
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- Subject: [PEN-L:33680] Re: Weinstein on Lipset & Marks/Why Socialism Failed in US
- From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 13:24:16 -0500
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Sunday, December 17, 2002
It Didn't Happen Here
Why Socialism Failed in the United States
By JAMES WEINSTEIN
Special to the Times
After 1900, when Eugene V. Debs first ran for president and the
Socialist Party of America was founded, the Socialists faced yet
another, perhaps more daunting, problem: the peculiar structure of the
American political system. Ours is a system that militates against the
success of third parties.
But when things get hot enough, 3rd parties are possible. Our problem is
that social democrats like Weinstein and the CP, who should have thought
in class terms, actively fight against 3rd party initiatives. If the CP
had put its organizational muscle behind a Labor Party in the 1930s, the
US political landscape would look a lot different today. We still have
the same fight on our hands, if you read Ronnie Dugger's "Ralph, Don't
Run" in a recent Nation Magazine.
This brings us back to Marx's idea that "the country that is more
developed industrially shows to the less developed the image of their
future." Lipset and Marks quote this remark as if it were a comment on
politics, but Marx meant it as a statement about the developmental logic
of capitalist society. And though Marx believed that capitalist cant
development was a prerequisite for socialism, he had little to say about
how the political movement for socialism would or should develop.
Of course not. He was an historical materialist, not a fortune-telling
moralist. Marx was far more interested in the Paris Commune, which
despite not abolishing capitalist property relations, indicated how
workers could run society.
He did
believe that Britain, or more likely the United States, would be the
first to achieve the level of technological development and the
experience of democracy required to make possible a peaceful transition
to socialism. So far, history has not proved him wrong in this regard.
Indeed, one might argue that the United States has achieved this level
of development and awaits the growth of a left to appreciate that
potential. If that is so, then perhaps the title of Lipset and Marks'
book might better have been "Why Socialism Hasn't Happened Here Yet"
rather than "It Didn't Happen Here."
This is a mechanical understanding of Marx's views. Technological
development and parliamentary democracy have little to do with preparing
the way for socialism. Socialism's midwife is proletarian revolution,
which can only be the result of profound social and economic upheavals.
James Weinstein is the author of "The Decline of Socialism in America,
1912-1925" and the founding editor of In These Times.
He is also the benefactor of his wife's ample fortune which allows him
to run a money-losing vanity publication like "In these Times".
--
The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org
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