PEN-L
mailing list archive
[ Other Periods
| Other mailing lists
| Search
]
Date:
[ Previous
| Next
]
Thread:
[ Previous
| Next
]
Index:
[ Author
| Date
| Thread
]
[PEN-L:33393] Re: The Economist considers Karl Marx new ref # 33305
- To: <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [PEN-L:33393] Re: The Economist considers Karl Marx new ref # 33305
- From: Doyle Saylor <djsaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:58:46 -0800
- User-agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630)
Greetings Economists,
Jim Devine writes,
FWIW, I wasn't knocking lunatics. I don't think the division between
"lunatics" and "normal people" really exists. Further, "lunacy" and genius
go hand in hand.
Jim in RI
Doyle
I'm well aware you struggle with me about what you mean when you use words
that sound like a disability shapes your comment. Like I wrote before I've
been known to use exactly the same sort of characterizations. Something or
somebody is crazy. I'm sure if given a chance in some appropriate regime
you would strongly advocate for a society that represents socialist values
toward health etc. You are trying as above to find a way to make clear
where your real values are.
Let's talk about loose marbles. Two groups of people were churned by
economic necessity, African Americans during WWII to move to California, and
from Mexico and South America Latinos also being forced to California.
Loose marbles is certainly a common expression for being insane in most
English speaking peoples minds. So too those who immigrate for economic
reasons are vulnerable to the charge of being of no value because they had
to leave their homes to make a living elsewhere. There is no way I
disparage those peoples who work hard in severe oppressive conditions for
relocating here. They are not in any way 'loose' marbles in the head,
heart, feet, minds, hands, persons, etc.
Socialism is for the 'whole' working class. It's power derives from unity.
>From the complex job of uniting everyone. I want it to be clear that we
welcome disabled people into Socialism. That the left is about liberation
for all the working class. Idle words that seem to make disability the
problem are not what Socialism is about. Nor is being correct here what
Socialism is about. Rather I am raising my understanding of what I read
here to build a bridge of understanding both to you, and about Disability
rights for all.
Thanks,
Doyle Saylor
- Thread context:
- [PEN-L:33397] (no subject),
Michael Hoover Wed 25 Dec 2002, 10:41 GMT
- [PEN-L:33396] Church leaders attack war plans (UK),
Chris Burford Wed 25 Dec 2002, 08:43 GMT
- [PEN-L:33395] FT on the Great Bear,
Michael Pollak Wed 25 Dec 2002, 07:35 GMT
- [PEN-L:33394] academics stand up to the punks,
Ian Murray Wed 25 Dec 2002, 06:16 GMT
- [PEN-L:33393] Re: The Economist considers Karl Marx new ref # 33305,
Doyle Saylor Wed 25 Dec 2002, 01:55 GMT
- [PEN-L:33392] US Imperialism: North Korea,
Sabri Oncu Tue 24 Dec 2002, 22:36 GMT
- [PEN-L:33391] Responsibility, Convention, and the Role of Ideas in History,
Yoshie Furuhashi Tue 24 Dec 2002, 22:31 GMT
- [PEN-L:33389] The Rawhide Kid,
Michael Hoover Tue 24 Dec 2002, 21:18 GMT
- [PEN-L:33388] Jewish Professors Keep Divestment Drive Alive,
Michael Hoover Tue 24 Dec 2002, 21:15 GMT
[ Other Periods
| Other mailing lists
| Search
]