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[PEN-L:33058] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War
At 2:11 PM -0800 12/11/02, Ian Murray wrote:
> What does Sam Smith mean by "the colloquial left"? And you mean that
"anti-sectarian sects" (your term) = "the colloquial left" (Smith's
> term)? I'm trying to understand what you are trying to say.
================================
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1024-04.htm
While there's stuff in the piece to quibble with, SS is pretty much
on target as we approach 2003.
I just don't see the sort of categories on which Sam Smith insists:
"an ideological left centered in New York City," "The intellectual
left, in its academic variety at least," "The institutional left,
much of it headquartered in Washington," "what might be called
iconographic left, which uses the power of images, sounds and words,"
and "The really important left -- the idiomatic, colloquial left of
people who never read the Nation, let alone have a column in it."
There are social and political divisions among those who are opposed
to the war on Iraq, but, IMHO, important divisions don't fall into
the categories that Smith created.
At 2:11 PM -0800 12/11/02, Ian Murray wrote:
Lessons from http://eserver.org/bs/reviews/2002-9-23-8.20AM.html
will be useful at this point.
What are the "lessons" from the article or what is described in the article?
At 2:11 PM -0800 12/11/02, Ian Murray wrote:
> For that (= the breakdown of the distinction between rank-and-file
activists and "peace and justice bureaucrats") to happen, resources
-- money, skills, name recognition, access to facilities, contact
info about liberal and left-wing intellectuals and celebrities,
contact info about anti-war organizers and activists nationwide, etc.
-- have to be equally possessed by all the (as of now) local
organizers, rather than centralized by the national organizers like
those who manage ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, and Win Without War.
In other words, all of the local coalitions and their main organizers
will have to have what ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, and Win
Without War have. Is that possible? Is it desirable if it is
possible? How do you propose to accomplish it? (Three different
questions here).
--
> Yoshie
======================
Now if I could fit those answers into 5 paragraph email...................:-)
Then, you can discuss it in a series of postings.
--
Yoshie
* Calendar of Events in Columbus:
<http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html>
* Anti-War Activist Resources: <http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/activist.html>
* Student International Forum: <http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/>
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: <http://www.osu.edu/students/CJP/>
- References:
- [PEN-L:32997] Re: sodexho and workers and colleges
- [PEN-L:32999] Re: Re: sodexho and workers and colleges
- [PEN-L:33000] Re: Re: Re: sodexho and workers and colleges
- [PEN-L:33010] ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War Re: sodexho and workers and colleges
- [PEN-L:33012] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War Re: sodexho and workers and colleges
- [PEN-L:33013] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War
- [PEN-L:33016] Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War
- [PEN-L:33018] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War
- [PEN-L:33019] Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War
- Thread context:
- [PEN-L:33013] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War, (continued)
- [PEN-L:33013] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Yoshie Furuhashi Wed 11 Dec 2002, 20:58 GMT
- [PEN-L:33016] Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Ian Murray Wed 11 Dec 2002, 21:32 GMT
- [PEN-L:33018] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Yoshie Furuhashi Wed 11 Dec 2002, 21:50 GMT
- [PEN-L:33019] Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Ian Murray Wed 11 Dec 2002, 22:08 GMT
- [PEN-L:33058] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Yoshie Furuhashi Thu 12 Dec 2002, 21:57 GMT
- [PEN-L:33066] Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Ian Murray Fri 13 Dec 2002, 00:36 GMT
- [PEN-L:33067] Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Yoshie Furuhashi Fri 13 Dec 2002, 02:01 GMT
- [PEN-L:33069] Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Carrol Cox Fri 13 Dec 2002, 02:42 GMT
- [PEN-L:33071] Re: Re: ANSWER, NION, United for Peace, & Win Without War,
Ian Murray Fri 13 Dec 2002, 04:20 GMT
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