[PEN-L:32483] Re: Stallin Stalin 3 of 3

[Sabri Oncu <soncu@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Excerpt I (from part 1):

> Now, the first stage of communism is only possible after - not
> before, the evolutionary leap in the mode of production is
> underway. This evolutionary leap does not mean the evolutionary
> leap from agriculture to industry, but rather the leap -
transition,
> from industrial society to a society whose infrastructure is
riveted
> to advanced robotics, computers and digitalized production
process.

Excerpt II (from part 3):

> The logic of development of the robot and advanced robotics
> destroyed the industrial capitalist as industrial capitalist
> and transformed financial-industrial capital. Speculative
> capital, that is capital increasingly invested detached from
> the means of production is the form of capital created by who?
> - the robot or rather advanced robotics.


These are interesting points Melvin. However, I am not sure, for
example, if speculative capital, that is capital increasingly
invested detached from the means of production, is the form of
capital created by the robot or rather advanced robotics. My line
of work has been quite different than yours: university/service
sector/back to university. And of course, computerization has
altered my work life over the past twenty years fundamentally.
While working in the service sector, for example, when the
company network went down, we simply stopped working. However,
robots never played any visible role in my life. So, I am biased
by my personal life experiences.

There is no doubt that automation and, at least for the past 30
years or so, computerization have been on going transformations
in the current mode of production but there had been other
periods in the past in which capital shifted from production to
speculation in a way similar to what we have been experiencing
for the past 30 years in the US, in particular and in the core
capitalist countries, in general. I don't mean to say that we are
not experiencing an evolutionary leap in the mode of production,
because I personally don't have sufficient data to conclude
either way, but maybe we can explain this shift of capital from
production to speculation using a more comprehensive theory,
which does not exclude advanced robotics.

I am also of the opinion that the current stage of speculation is
about to come to an end and expect a new shift of capital, this
time, from speculation back to production. I suspect that this
shift started to take place with the Republican coup of 2000 in
the US, although, this is just a speculation on my part.

Just shooting in the dark!

Best,
Sabri