[PEN-L:30680] RE: Re: popular support (was: Momentum?)

["Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx>]

Title: RE: [PEN-L:30678] Re: popular support (was: Momentum?)

>Dan:
>The (collective) brain of the populus has been mushed out by
>mainstream media and is now irrelevant.
>
>Jim: It's true that people have, in many ways, been brain-washed.
>But if the "public" isn't involved in changing the _status quo_, how
>are you going to do it for them? using a small elite or vanguard
>party? a self-selected group of people who know the Truth? engaging
>in "propaganda of the deed"?

Dan reponds: >I was flippant. I mean to say (and admittedly didn't say) that folks who depend on mainstream media haven't much content (from the media) with which to foster critical thought. There's no point in getting at them that way and whether they "approve" or not of tactics of peace demonstrators is wholly irrelevant -- they're playing with a marked deck.<

I dunno. If movement people actually called 911 to tie up the cops, that can be used as ammunition to turn people off, turning them even further away from the movement.

>It's up to the peace movement to knock the populace upside the head in other ways -- music, art, street theater, jokesters, massive rallies that can't be ignored, leafletting cars at K-Mart, and so on, so that they begin to question the corporate media.<

sounds good to me.

>Dan quotes:
>"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a
>revolutionary act." George Orwell
>
>Jim: what's the point of telling the truth if peoples' brains have
>been "mushed out"?

>Here, I quote one of my own songs, "Showdown Comin'"....

>Disinformation is really the same
As dat information the newsman claim;
And dat information keeps the news a game,
For me -- and you, too.<

yes, it's a game, a damned serious one. One problem is that so much of disinformation has a lot of facts mixed in and usually lying by omission. It's hard to deal with. It's not surprising to me that the average member of the public has a hard time.

BTW, what kind of music do you do? (singer-songwriter/folk-rock?)

jim