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[PEN-L:30638] Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Militarism- How many Divisionsare there
Thanks Michael Hoover.
The analysis I first read (re sectional interests the "Yankees" vs the
"Cowboys") did indeed invoke Ogelsby. It was in a work by W.B.Bland in
an issue of Communist League from the 70's; & discussed matters of the
USA politics - from the Kennedy assassination - through to Watergate -
in terms of power blocks within the USA ruling class.
Points arising:
YOU WROTE: 1) former sdser/new leftist turned conspiracy theorist carl
oglesby may have been first to use cowboy/yankee concept/terminology in
his early 70s book 'the cowboy and
yankee war'... distinction probably more relevant at that time re.
some differences between 'frostbelt' and 'sunbelt' capital...
significantly, however, u.s. foreign policy never changed much
regardless of whether 'liberal' yankees or 'conservative' cowboys won
elections...
REPLY:
Well - well the direction of US foreign policy need not necessarily
change. All I am suggesting is that within the context of an overall
agreement to screw the workers/peasants fo the USA/the world - there may
be cause to disagree on some matters within the ruling class. I am
trying to understand why there can be a lobby within the US ruling
circles that might at this present juncture contradict the general
agreement ot launch war. Now while I agree with the other Michael P -
that this si pretty muted opposition (Michael Pereleman says it is none)
there si some. Why? Who (which sectional class interest) gains?
2) You wrote: "ruling class differences - between domestic and
transitional capital, for example -
revolve around how best to stifle class conflict in order to maintain
existing system... 'debates' rarely consider interests of working
people... certainly, restraints upon ruling class exists, a no small
part of which is what they think they can get way with, but also
(somewhat ironically, perhaps) co-optation/
legitimation of representative' government..."
REPLY: No disagreement!
Thanks again. I will check out Thomas Dye.
Cheers!
Hari
- Thread context:
- [PEN-L:30643] Re: On the US ruling class split, (continued)
- [PEN-L:30640] telecom market madness,
Michael Perelman Sat 28 Sep 2002, 01:17 GMT
- [PEN-L:30639] lockout,
Ian Murray Sat 28 Sep 2002, 00:15 GMT
- [PEN-L:30638] Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Militarism- How many Divisionsare there,
Hari Kumar Sat 28 Sep 2002, 00:04 GMT
- [PEN-L:30637] Fw: No-fly blacklist snares political activists - SF Chronicle September 27, 2002,
Ralph Johansen Fri 27 Sep 2002, 23:11 GMT
- [PEN-L:30635] Presidential images,
Devine, James Fri 27 Sep 2002, 22:44 GMT
- [PEN-L:30633] RE: Re: RE: Momentum?,
Devine, James Fri 27 Sep 2002, 22:07 GMT
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